Think this is nutrient deficiency

[Calvin1722]

Hi growing community, I have a few ladies that are having a problem and I’m not sure what to do next.

I have 2 banana krumbles and 1 mango Kush, plant we’re doing well until about a week ago. I’m using greenhouseseedscompany bio line.so everything is organic so I’ve just been feeding ph water of 6.0-6.2. I also try give the ladies rainwater as much as I can (when I’ve collected some). I noticed my ladies started loocking a little unhappy. Recently and I don’t know the cause, or how to fix them.

Is it maybe my soil ph that’s locking out nutrients? I thought this is the case and I’ve given the ladies a foliage feed , they looked a little better than last week but I still have dying off leaves and yellowing.

Or is this light burn? I’m running 2 led grow units 90w each about 35cm from canopy and a 600w hps which is 45cm away.

I’m stressed cos I just put them into flower and this is the response I’m getting day 2 flower

[Calvin1722]

The one plant was a bit of a runt to begin with but I kept her

[Calvin1722]

@Drinkslinger @MeEasy@ @Covertgrower @Ah-hee please help!!

[MidwestGuy]

Do you know your runoff PPM and pH?

A support ticket will help us help you.

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• What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed

• Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF

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[Calvin1722]

Does my ph runoff matter cos I’m in organic soil?

[MidwestGuy]

Yes. You can still have out of range pH and experience a lockout. I don’t know about PPM for organics. It is certainly better if you aren’t feeding salt based nutes, but I imagine you could still overdo it with organic materials.

Again, a support ticket will help us help you. Please also specify brand and type of organic soil. Some types can be problematic.

@Myfriendis410 and/or @Covertgrower Do you know any good organic growers that can help Calvin? I’ve never grown organic.

[MeEasy]

@Calvin1722 yes ph does matter in organic but don’t wash out your nutrients. You need to do a slurry test to read the ph. I’m not familiar with your greenhouse product so I’m not gonna be much help with that. When you have a problem in living soil it’s better to add an amendment that will adjust it instead of washing everything out and starting with fresh food

[Calvin1722]

Banana krumble , GHSC
Mango Kush, bag seed

• Method: Advanced premium soil

Nutrients:greenhouse feeding company bio line

• Vessels: 20l Fabric pot

• Water PH 6.0-6.2, Solution, don’t look at my runoff ppm but my ph is 7.0 others 7.1 when applying 6.0PH

• I don’t look at ppm cos the soil was fed as a top dressing

• Indoor

• 800w total, 600w hps + 2x 90w led

• Temps; 27,20

• Humidity; 65%

• Ventilation system; Yes, na

• no AC, no Humidifier, no De-humidifier,

• Co2; No

[Calvin1722]

This did cross my mind my 600w is 45 cm away and the led lights are 35cm away but it was 30cm away and I raised them 2 days ago

[Calvin1722]

I’ve never done a par reading

[GreenJewels]

I agree, looks like light bleaching.

[MidwestGuy]

I’ll be interested to see what some experienced organic growers say, but it all looks reasonable.

The lights are rather close and HPS puts off a lot of heat, so it may be heat stress from the lighting. Many people always keep their lights 46cm away as a minimum.

[MeEasy]

Organic grower

[GreenJewels]

Anyway that you can get some better pics of lower growth? Those pics are to yellow for me to see the leaves color very well. I see some brown spotting, I think.
Also, what is in this? Is it your own mix? What are you topdressing? I don’t know your nutes, I use living soil.

@Calvin1722

Method: Advanced premium soil

[Calvin1722]

Yes I have 2 for circulation

[Calvin1722]

and yes there’s yellowing of leaves and brown spots.

[Calvin1722]

@Gleaf @GreenJewels

[GreenJewels]

The soil ingredients I found listed

Some better pics would really help with leaf diagnosis. Kinda looks like calcium, hard to tell though without better pics and whole plant shot is nice. I’ll have to take a look at your nutes when I have time. Gotta run for now.
@Budbrother may be around?

[fano_man]

Organic dosrnt mean super soil it’s not a water only type grow … ffof (fox farm ocen forest…all fox farm soil for that matter is organic and 2 to 3 weeks your nutes are depleted and like I always say I push nutes early dont rely on soil to carry you … you WILL ALWAYS BE DEFICENT nutrients must be organic as well in organic dirt or you will be killing all your lives in your organic soil and it won’t be so special anymore organics need micro organisms to break down organics (fungi , bacteria) without your microorganisms get killed off from most synthetics and sterilizes like peroxide and bug sprays and drenches that brings said if you have ph issues in organics flushing is usually recommended because the soil in organic MJ specific dirt is almost always buffered and little things can cause swings from build up to excess of certain nutes …and not all dirt is perfectly mixed its dirt… it’s not a chocolate milk it’s not a homogeneous mixture it’s a heterogeneous mixture which has the possibility to have un even mix and concentrations of different ingredients can very

[MeEasy]

@Calvin1722 I looked at your nutrients and your soil is supposed to be a living soil. If you have been using ph up down and or any other chemicals you could have killed off the critters in your soil. I would recommend making a poop or compost tea to bring it back to life. The nutrients I use i make tea out of it to boost my soil/ plants. It might be a good idea to talk to the guys that make greenhouse for their input because it could be as simple as a tbs of Epsom salt, molasses, or a handful of lime. Flushing is not the answer unless you want to switch to salt nutrients