Switching to coco

I probably will end up trying it out for sure. Even tho the water frequency is more i like the kind of growth i see others having with coco.

Maybe one girl in my 2x2 with an auto pot :thinking:

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Yes, the growth in coco is astounding. My friend grows in soil, and when me and him compare grows, that truly shows how much faster plants grow in coco. Last summer I started my plants 2 weeks after him, and harvested almost 2 weeks earlier than he did! Shaved off almost a month just for being in a different medium.

The only thing I would be weary of about autopots for coco is because they are bottom feed. Usually coco likes having watering like a waterfall, from top to bottom to flush out the salts from the previous watering each time. I’ve seen growers having success with autopots and coco, but if you’re still setting up and haven’t spent the money on autopots yet I would consider a top feed system.

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Any guesses what that is…

Stupid nanners I spent about a half hour picking them off last night. I was going to give her another week but now that she wants to start playing games we might have to take her out sooner.

I’ve heard autopots work great with coco. Something about bottom feeding pushing the salt build up towards the top of the medium :man_shrugging:t3:

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I havent got anything yet, just wanting to figure out a system first. If i end up having to have a res, i might shoot the DWC route and have it linked to both grow areas. Idk just tryna explore some different growing options :grimacing:

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There is also the peat route. It’s mostly neutral like coco(It’s a little more acidic), but it holds water more like soil. It doesn’t require the constant watering like coco.

It’s late enough that even if they did drop pollen it wouldn’t do much before your ready to cut it anyway.

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I grow in coconut coir and perlite and only water a couple of times a week (maybe daily if it’s really hot 40C/ 104F). My plants are fine and don’t have any issues growing or flowering with watering them once or twice a week. I let them dry out and if the pots are light I water them, if they are heavy I don’t.

When I water them I use a watering can and pour a liter or so over the medium. Wait a bit and then pour a bit more on. I continue doing this until it runs out the bottom of the pot.

I use plastic pots not material so they don’t dry out as much. Material pots might need watering more often, especially in dry climates.

My coconut perlite ratio is 70% coconut coir and 30% perlite done by volume not by weight. I use a 2 liter container and fill it 3 times with perlite and 7 times with coconut coir and mix it all up in a big container. Then use that for the plants.

If you don’t want to water as often then use a 80/20 ratio (80% coconut coir and 20% perlite).

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Yeah it’s late enough for her but I still have the ATF in there with her

I got a little upset when I saw them figured I had 3 options

1- let her buck and see what happens

2- pick off the ones I can see knowing full well there are more that I won’t find

Or option 3 burn em all

After sleeping on it option 3 is almost off the table…

I think I’ll try and remove what I can find until this weekend then she’s gotta go. Even tho Candy kush stole the show the ATF is still the priority

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I’m glad that works for you part of the heavy watering is due to high frequency fertigation, constantly giving them fresh nutes to use.
From what I know coco should never dry out

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Even still. In my experience by the time you start seeing lots of them it’s too late. I wouldn’t harvest the ATF early for sure there is no up side even if it has been pollinated.

When it dries the left over nutrient ions that were dissolved in the solution bind and form salts in the medium. Those salts can affect PH, solubility, and nutrient ratio.

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Yeah unfortunately ATF has a little while to go still she’s not even close enough to ponder cutting down yet so it is what it is I guess
Still kicking myself for the ph meter fiasco they both slowed way down after that. I’m ready to start over the last few weeks are the worst lol

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Did not know this! This will probably affect my decision :sweat_smile:

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that’s why the runoff numbers change. The same thing can happen in soil, but soil has more ability to hold on to those ions so they don’t combine into salts.

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@Gl1tch is on it!

Coco should be fed a minimum of once per day. :call_me_hand:t3: if you have a larger pot and little to no perlite.

More perlite more feeds
Smaller pots more feeds

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Yeah those are nanners. I got them in my first grow, and in the last one I did. I only got seeded buds this grow, first one didn’t, so don’t get disheartened. As @Gl1tch said, if it’s aready late in the cycle it won’t have enough time to do damage. If it was early, worst case you’ll just have to deal with loads of seeds, which isn’t pleasant, but still better than ‘burning them all’ as you stated :joy: :joy: :joy:

I’ve never come across this but it does make sense as to why I’ve seen growers get good results with autopots although they are bottom feed. Thanks! Always interesting learning something more about this hobby :slight_smile:

That’s good, so you’re open to exploring various options since you didn’t spend money on things which could become unused equipment. I originally wanted to go the DWC route, but I was advised on this forum that since it’s so hot here that it’s not really a viable option unless I could get chillers. The problem with DWC is that Pythium (also known as root rot) starts growing in temps of 75F (24C) and above if I remember correctly. Your rez will be outside the tent sure, but then your buckets will be in the tent with the lights blasting on them for 12/18 hours daily, which will increase heat. The advantage of coco is that it acts as a slight buffer, so you don’t have the roots continuously soaked in this solution, even if you do get some high temps in the rez outside the tent. Do try keeping it as cold as you can though (insulation, placed directly on a concrete floor). I was also advised on this thread to sterilize the solution with hyrogen peroxide, to make sure your new mix is fully sterile.

This could be the reason why, I’m in Air Pots so the pot is full of holes. But coco shouldn’t go through a wet-dry cycle, it should always be moist.

There’s no benefit of cutting her if she’s not even in the window. Better ending up with seeded bud instead of trichomes that haven’t matured yet.

That’s ok, what’s important is that we learn from our mistakes. Don’t kick yourself too much :wink: Yeah I completely get you about the final weeks, I’ll be edging to see my results! The goal I’m trying to achieve is a pound (454g) from a 2x4. Haven’t pulled it off yet, closest I got was 409g on my 2nd grow from 3 autos.

@Low Glad to see you again :slight_smile: Just wanted to let you know I finally got my partner’s employment issue solved. It’s been a really rough ride these past few months, she was also close to getting deported at some point (she’s a foreigner on a work permit until we manage to get married), but thankfully that should all be behind us now and she started a new job last week :slight_smile: I’m back in the game now with my head at ease working on my auto watering system. Hoping to get it done by this weekend so I can pop some seeds :smiley: Thank you for your support.

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I reserve the right to hang on to the nuclear option for all problems real or imagined :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

ATF was never on the block, the big candy kush is the offender and will be punished as such :grin:

And glad to hear the home life is settling down. Deportation is not a fun thing to deal with I know people it’s happened to. Did you get her a ring yet? If not go for it, married life isn’t always as bad as they say it is :rofl:

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Haha good one, you make me laugh with your flamethrower jokes lol. Not the first time you’ve used one :joy: :joy: :joy:

Must be looking forward to chopping her down! She looks delicious and I think will yield very nicely! :yum:

Thank you, I appreciate that. It really has been tough and completely shattered my focus from everything else really, even getting the new grow started. Getting back on track now with some peace of mind. Yeah, losing the job was stressful enough, tack on chance of deportation on top of that :confused: I’m sorry to hear you know someone that faced that, it really is a horrible situation :frowning: Haha, no ring yet, only thing that’s stopping me though is cause she was previously married. We are in the process of getting an annulment, should be granted in around a year or so given the lawyer’s previous experiences. She doesn’t give me grief about growing, smoking and gaming, so I can’t complain really :joy: :joy: :joy:

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All kidding aside, that’s great to hear. When you find a good one hang on tight and don’t let go. I married my wife because I couldn’t see a life without her. That was 20 years ago, she’s still my best and pretty much only friend, and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

Absolutely, just not sure if that’s to try her out or to get started on the next batch lol

Good I’m not the only one laughing, I try not to take anything too seriously. :grin:

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So would a regular flush be beneficial?

Think 7 gal would work with that or best to shoot for a 10gal :thinking:

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I’ve done both 5 and 7 on 1 feed per day with great success in both. Did 5 straight coco, did the 7 with 20-30% perlite. :call_me_hand:t3: numbers are harder to control in coco with 1 feed per day, but definitely easier compared to soil.

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Ok cool good 2 know :sunglasses:

Meaning both ph and ppm? :thinking:
I figured it’d be a bit easier with doing a feeding daily :thinking:

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