Here you go @DebbieM
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I can always count on you, Jay! Thanks. Definitely like what I see. Thanks for the little cheer me up.
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They look better @DebbieM, I see new green leaves down low which is a sign to me the the plant is getting better from the bottom up. I see also burnt tips on the yellow leaves which probably are the after effects of having the ph all screwed up. Most of these nutrient lines are balanced in the ingredients the plant needs and if the ph is off and thereās a lockout, any nutrients that are getting by, are out of levels with its companions because the others are getting locked out. This could lead to not only a nute deficiency across the board but also an overload of any that are getting by.
The 6.2 to 6.5 range keeps all the nutrients the plant needs, available, when she calls for em. Some nutrients are available to the plant in a 5.8 to 6.5 range and yet others are available in a 6.3-6.8 range. Trending any higher or lower makes one nutrient to much and others to little. Itās kinda like cooking, too much of one ingredient can cancel out the others if its not proportioned to complement each other, working together to make a unique taste to the palette that just one ingredient couldnāt do on its own, or worse make for a terrible dish.
Both plants are stressed out and need time to recover. Letās give it the time it needs to get green all over again and then you can reap a reward you can be proud of.
It may take a little longer than we spoke but sheās looking good. A good feed on Saturday with Veg nutes again should make her happierā¦ I would aim for 1000ppm at 6.4ph per gallon. The two of those donāt need any more than 3/4 gal. ea. of water for the next feed. Mix 2 gallons of water total, pour in 3/4 gal into each slowly. A quarter gal. a time and wait a minute before the next so the roots donāt get drowned. If thereās no runoff, add the other 1/4 gallon. 3 days later, no feed, just 6.5 ph water, same amount.
Also, you may know this, when the pot is dry and before you water, pickup the pot and feel the weight of it in your hands. Thatās what she feels like when she needs water. After you water em, pickup em again, now you know the weight when sheās fed. When she feels light again you water. Also the top is the soil should be dry ofcourse, but if she feels light than you know sheās draining well. Adding more perlite to your soil mix when making your pots up will make it more airy and help get more oxygen to the roots as well as keep the medium a little lighter to handle too.
Hereās a shot of my Citral Glue starting to frost over. Sheās in her 3rd week of flower.
Have a great day!
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Yep heās right.
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@DebbieM ,
You doing an awesome job Deb, stay the course and hopefully that green will come back on the next couple of feedings.
Hi. Yes, thanks for that explanation. I love detailed explanations, I find it much easier to remember to do or add something if I know why Iām doing it. I am willing to give them all the time they need or you tell me what they need and I will to the best and speediest of my ability I will do . If you are willing to give me advice and pass down knowledge I am right here soaking it up. I actually print your instructions so I can have them on hand, itās easier than finding them in my bookmarks. And I have all the charts everyone sent, also. It just kind of perplexes me why it acts so strangely, I mean you canāt get light on it at night or it changes sex? Who would ever think that? How did someone even figure that out? Itās astonishing to me. But, bring it on, I can learn, and will learn and screw the dispensary! That pic of your girl, sheās gonna be more beautiful and taste better than anything you can buy at the store in IL. Thanks for the pic, I really love these pictures.
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DebbieM-
Build a soil is where I get what I cant get local. And I am sorry, but I have never used humic and fulvic acid. I am sure I have humic in there somewhere. Build a soil is a good company. I based my last yearās grow out of one of their soil recipes.
Let me check on the humic and fulvic acid and get back to you. Peaceā¦
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DebbieM-
Ok- humic and fulvic acid are the very last part of decomposition of plant and animal matter. If you can imagine a peat bog where lots of plants and animals live. Then hundreds of years later all of that area disappeared and died. If you dug into the ground there would be a layer of sediment that is all that was left after the bog disappeared.
In laymanās terms they are little molecules that bind to the plantās roots and help it to absorb water and nutrients. High levels of humic acid isnāt a bad thingā¦
Hope that helps with the āwhat is itā and āwhat does it doā kind of stuff. Build a soil has humic and fulvic acid separately just enter āhumicā in their magnifying glass and it pops up ($24). Then do a fulvic search and it will pop up. Hope this helps you. Peaceā¦
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Thanks Patch, I actually looked it up for myself, but I like your explanations better.
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@Jaydawg6528 @patchman @HappyHydroGrower @CalamityJane @afgVet @Covertgrower @Hellraiser @Budz @yoshi @Kinglouida13th So, now itās Friday, I think I will water tomorrow, after I get my readings. One quick ? is do I subtract the ppms already in the water from the total amt to calculate the food situation? And hereās todayās pics, not much difference yet, I will patiently wait until Iām told to flip them. Thanks abouttime.
I did everybody so I wouldnāt get reprimanded for just talking to one person too long
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You shouldnāt be reprimanded for going with the advice you choose to go with. I would add whatever yall detetmined to go with the nutes. I have never read where anyone subtracts the ppm from the water first. Try not to make it more complicated than it already is. Never saw the pictures you were going to post today. Good luck from here to the finish line!! Peaceā¦
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I see some progress with your girls. Not much, but remember, you have just got the pH back to a good level. I look at pH as the plantās throat. If itās at the right level your plant can eat and drink all it needs. If the pH is off by a good margin itās like your plant just got chemo and itās locked all nutrition out. āI am not eating anything.ā You have just unlocked their throats, you will see a big difference once they start taking in nutrients. Itās getting better, you are doing what you need to. Peaceā¦
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That was funny!!..My opinion is to feed her following the FoxFarms schedule for Veg. The later weeks before flower stage section is what I would aim for going in. That might be about 600-700ppm but Iām not positive so check the chart.
As far as flipping is concerned your just waiting for her to get healthy and then you can change the lights, or let em get bigger ofcourse too. All depends in the space you have. When the go into flower they will āstretchā. Meaning they get taller. Some strains double in height. A sativa leaning strain( thin leaves) will be higher than an indica dominate strain (wide leaves).
Some pics for yaā¦
The girls all enjoying an evening under the light together. When the sun comes up the autos go outside for the day amd the tent gets closed for 12 hours at 7am.
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And this is my Vader OG that I just flipped into flower on Wednesday. Sheās in a separate smaller tent.
Have a great Saturday!
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Theyāre still damp under the layer of soil I just put on there, waiting til tomorrow to water. Wonāt let me put in any pics, stupid computer
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That should be fine, along as theyre not drooping and or wilting shes good. Maybe even growing some new roots now.
Like Iāve mentioned to you before, prune off any burnt leaves. In fact any leaves below the tops pointing in toward the center are OK to prune off to allow for better air movement.
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ok, Claraās ph shot up over 7 again and Sprout was 6.8, got them both down to 6.4 and fed them ppm were both in the 700ās, no more water for another 5 days again, they are real wet
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DebbieM-
Looks like you fixed the problem. The pH may be one of those things where you have to put your water and nutes phād lower. I donāt know what you had the pH was going in, but if it shot up to 7, then maybe you need to pH your water/nutes at a 5.5 going in to get your run off at 6.5. Itās like youāre shooting a gun and it is shooting high. Aim lower than the target to get dialed in. Once you get the runoff where you want it you will know exactly where to pH your water/nutes at. I will be waiting to see what the girls look like in a few days. Peaceā¦
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I agree, after a bunch of gallons of water I figured out to go low to get it down, but this was more like another flush, why is it going up when it was right? Iām not right in the ppm chart either, need to be higher. Does that mean just dump in more nute water? @abouttime
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