Something is off here

So it looks like something is off, could be that I started feeding too late as I just started jacks 321. I am also partially colorblind so might miss some things.

Day 42
Organic soil w/ perlite
Jacks 321
200w led light 20/4 cycle
Tent stays between 70-82f

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Whats the ph and ppm of your input water and runoff? That will tell us a lot


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  • Bandana feminized from Pacific Seed Bank
  • Method: Organic soil w/ live micros using jacks 321(started Monday)
  • Vessels: 3 gal fabric pots
  • PH is 6.3-6.8
  • PPM is 1200-1300
  • Indoor 2x2x4 tent
  • Light system 200w bestva led. Wall draw is 200w 20/4 cycle.
  • Temps; Day 78-81, Night 70-72
  • Humidity; day 25-40% Night 50-55%
  • Ventilation system; AC Infinity T6 with temp and humidity control
  • Water with towel in front of fan to increase humidity.
  • Co2; No

Ohh, haven’t done runoff readings.

You need a longer rest time you are at 20-4 drop it to 18-6 or 16-8 that’s what I like to use even if they’re autos I would drop them down to 12-12 they do most of there growing at night do you have a pic of the whole plant?


@Hogmaster shes a photo.

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The new growth showing signs of not being healthy along with the rest of the plant. check your PH run off Would be a good starting point.
Just my thoughts Good Luck


It looks like a magnesium or calcium def do u use cal/mag at all

Nope, haven’t used anything besides the jacks 321 and some molasses, maybe will perk up some after the jacks kicks in.

When did u top dress it

My soil is still pretty moist from my last soak, but gave a couple oz water with jacks to get her started last night and this morning.

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Here’s new pics from a bit ago, did switch her to 18/6 last night too. From the dry feel of them the big lower fan leaves that are yellow now will need to be removed.

Jack’s 321 has calcium in it but most add some epsom salt for Magnesium. Not sure the exact dosage, but I’ll tag the professor @Hellraiser

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epsom salt is part of the jacks 321 regimen. OP wouldn’t be using skipping it unless they didn’t read the back of the bag


There’s Epson salt in Jacks 321, it’s the “1” part. Lol

Ok cool, I use Jack’s tap system and not 321, but I know Hellraiser is the man and adds epsom salt if I’m not totally mistaken, which is very possible…lol

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If you order the big bags of Jacks 321 the you will still need to buy some epson salt, but if you get one of the smaller kits they usually come with Epson Salt as one of the bags. It’s 3 parts A, 2 parts B, and 1 part ES.

Had a whole other post about which fert to use with my organic soil as I was going to use FF triple pack, but got sent looking for Jacks or Gaia Green as that’s seems to be what most people use with great success and I don’t want to have to flush my soil all the time.

Almost wrote “flush my soul”, but sadly I’m a ginger and KIA wouldn’t even sell me one…

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Per Hellraiser on another post. “no need for calmag with Jacks 321. Jacks has all the calcium (from the calcium nitrate) and magnesium (from the epsom salt) needed”


Plant looks very hungry and deficient, go full strength on the Jacks (3.6/2.4/1.2) at every watering and it’ll come around pretty quick. Yeah don’t need calmag with Jacks 321, has plenty of calcium (part b - calcium nitrate) and magnesium (epsom salt) when used at full strength.