Small and grow issues white widow

A question from a fellow grower:

I purchased 10 White Widow 5+5 fem from you a few months ago. I am trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. I have 2 plants from first 5 seeds almost finished. They are very small and have had lots of growth issues. I am growing other strains at the same time and same place and they are doing great. I just started the other 5 seeds and only 1 germinated in rapid rooters. It has been 2 weeks. I don’t want to try more seeds without figuring out what happened.

Using Foxfarms guide for nutrients
2 300 watt led
75 degree fahrenheit
45% humidity
Fan that clears when temp is above 75
I topped when I had 4 main colas.
My girl scout cookie hybrid from another seed source is doing great.
Slow growth and now getting brown spots along veins and curled edges
The pics show whole grow and then close up of white widow plants.

Do you know your Ph? It is the culprit of many problems (90%)
@Hammer @Majiktoker

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@Nug-bug ph is thy key to most problems! consistant ph no wild swings lol

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Hey @Bige do you know how to post a support ticket for this fellow grower,I’m not tek savy at all

sorry,idk either @Paranorman, @Matthew420 one of u tek guys give us alesson please

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**[quote=“latewood, post:1, topic:1458, full:true”]
COPY/PASTE: This “Support Ticket” into your forum post.
Answer these simple questions the best you can.
If you do not know, or do not use something; Just say so = NA

Strain; Type, Bag seed, or NA

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco?

System type?

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS

Indoor or Outdoor

Light system, size?

Temps; Day, Night

Humidity; Day, Night

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,

Co2; Yes, No

Add anything else you feel would help us give you a most informed answer. Feel free to elaborate, but short, to the point questions and facts will help us help you :slight_smile:

We had a previous Support Ticket posted, but lost it during the “database issuer”

**_hear you go guys

It’s looking like phosporus deficiency. A plant with a phosphorus deficiency will also have root problems as well as other general health problems

Also, like said above by @Nug-bug @BIGE , a PH issue might be present, however I maybe wrong, a grow mentor advise will be more accurate @MacGyverStoner @garrigan62 @Majiktoker @Hammer @Aquaponic_Dumme

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You should fill out the support ticket you have a lot going on, the fellas here are right ph is likely an issue I can see excess nitrogen which already puts calcium and potassium at risk. There is lots going on here over all I think you should test your ph as well as get a ppm reading


I will PH it today. I found it odd that just 2 of the plants out of 8 were like this. Same watering and soil mixtures. Do you find different strains are more sensitive to Ph changes?

Solution to fixing a Phosphorus deficiency
Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn’t be tolerated. Any chemical or organic fertilizers that have Phosphorus in them will fix a Phosphorus deficiency. If you have a phosphorus deficiency you should use any N-P-K ratio that is over 5.Again Peters all purpose 20-20-20 is a good mix. Miracle grow Tomato plant food, Miracle grow All purpose plant food (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) Other forms of phosphorus supplements are: Bone meal, which is gradual absorption, I suggest making it into a tea for faster use, where bone/blood meal is slow acting, but when made into a tea it works quicker! Fruit eating bat guano, which is fast absorption, Worm castings, which is gradual absorption, Fish meal, which is medium absorption, Soft Rock Phosphate, which is medium absorption, Jamaican or Indonesian Guano, which is fast absorption. Crabshell, which is slow absorption. Tiger Bloom , which is fast absorption.

Here is a list of things to help fix a Phosphrus Deficiency.

I have been feeding fox farms using the soil regimen they send with the set. I am using Tiger Bloom, Cha Ching, Bembe, and Grow Big. They get fed 1-2 x per week when the soild dries.

I wonder if this batch is too close to harvest to make a difference as they will probably be ready in 2 weeks. Thoughts?

Yes absolutely @Tsunamibud and you should try feeding once a week it may help and how many weeks in flower are they

About 9 weeks into flower. Trichomes have started turning frosty, but no amber yet.

Checked the Ph and found the culprit. Way way low. I took it for granted and wasnt testing. Beginner’s luck that they grew at all. Now I know! Thanks everyone.


Our pleasure glad you found the culprit of the problem :+1:


99 days

What are you doing for lighting.

I would start my own grow journal as this one is over 4
Years old. :+1::+1:

99 days… ?
Over watering and I’m sure a few other thngs…
Not the seeds fault…
Everyone always gives the plant way too much of everything…
Water , Nutrients , airflow ,c02 , humidity and everything in between… lol
Less is always better…

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600 led 4x4