Goodmorning Pharmer i asked the same question 2yrs ago i was ready to change out my burples. I bought a HLG 650R Scorpion great light runs at 60 percent. I also have 4 spiderfarm lights they have been my go to. I have the panel lights and the bar lights, i like the bars less heat generated maybe.
Excellent job HotRod congratulations
How many plants can you grow under the 2000 compaired to 3000 start to finish ? Sorry asking so many questions.
@TheAbu95
Congrats!!! That didn’t take long at all!
@Southern
The vivosun 4000 is good for a 3x3.
After that range it has a heavy drop off. What are your yield goals and budget? 2 plants or 5 in a 4x4 can yield similarly. It’s not about plant count, but your goal and time. Bigger the space the bigger the price tag, but there are some ‘budget’ options.
Here’s a few lights for ideas.
Im thinking a 4x4 i been growing with shop lights doing very well as to the extent that they can give i rather grow 1 big than 4 small i know i can grow with anything now i wanna enjoy my grows more than constant fighting my lights
Wow thank you very much thats everything i was wanting to know thank you very much
I’m glad that thread might be of some use! Well I really like your approach. 1 plant is easy, consistent and the least amount of work. It will take significantly more time to veg out, but you can cater to its needs easier. If you don’t plan on going to more than 1 plant I’d recommend a 2x2 or 3x3 and a budget light. Depending on your level of skill or time you put in expect anywhere from 1 gram to 2.5 grams per LED watt. Wattage isn’t the best to determine a light for a space but it’s an idea. It’s not the same as MH or HPS. A 3x3 will give you room to do a small variety run with 4 plants if you ever want to. But if you think you might want to pack a 4x4 you are gonna definitely have to shell out a little more $$$. Coverage is king, and isn’t cheap. In the grand scheme of things, coverage can be “cheap” in the lighting world. The hard part is trusting the stats provided by manufacturers. My rule of thumb, if it says it handles a 3x3 it’s for a 2x2, if it says it handles a 4x4 it’s for a 3x3, if it says 5x5 it’s 4x4. There are some exceptions but more often than not, just size up. Then with each size comes with its own set of environmental problems/hardware demands to make sure the grow is successful. Which mostly comes down to humidity and temp control.
Like @TheAbu95 said he recently pulled over a LB from a 2x2. Honestly that’s amazing, and is awesome for a home grow. That’s a lot of bud. lol. If you don’t get obsessive with it, I don’t really see a need to go beyond that for personal.
This is what i have been doing this will be the third time from seedling to finish
Very nice cola tree you have there.
Thank ya, thank ya very much. Lol 
Yes sir i been growing with lights i buy on amazon i get from 3 to 7 oz a plant but i did that cause my brother tld me i couldnt grow big plants with shop lights ,i did but im ready to make my life easier i grow in 16 frot camper i live in deep woods on my own 30 achers no one close by half mile
Pluss im threw with autos i thi k i prefer to have control over my plants more 1 went from 3 photos to 13autos not good trade off for lil faster bud
Wow i hope one day to have a gorgeous grow like that 
Looks like you got one going now bud!
This is my present set up it does ok but im looking forward to more better lol yall are making me wanna spend money an grow bigger better plants this is rite now with shop lights
Nice @TheAbu95 not like your hurting population if you have as many as here
To the best of my knowledge ive got about 8 long beards on the 2 parcels im hunting, well 7 i guess lol. Bout 150 acers combined. Ive watched the flock grow over the past few years. Honestly i think all the money i dump into keeping them healthy and making sure they got everything they need without ventureing to far has helped their numbers tremendously!! Now if i can just cut back on the coyotes before this springs hatch me and the turkeys will both be in good shape lol.
