Overwhelmed First Time Grower

I have the seeds now I want to order the equipment. I am a little overwhelmed reading so many topics. I think a kit would be easiest for me. My budget is about $500. I am planning on starting out with 3 autoflowering plants. Could someone please tell me what the think the best kit/tent size would be for this or any recommendations? Thanks so much. I need it dumbed down for me LOL

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Dont get a kit just dont theyā€™re all crap , Iā€™ve been very impressed with the melon farm 4x4 tent for a budget tent itā€™s been good quality . Get a cloudline s4 ( s6 would be even better) along with ducting and if itā€™s in your budget a carbon filter. DONT skimp on the light get a solid 2000 watt spider farmer ( 1000 if you only plan on doing 1or 2 plants). Get 5 gallon fabric pots and a good ph meter is a must apera is the cheapest good 1. Home depot has cheap coco coir in right now pick up a big bag or 2 along with compost and try a basic dry amendment run for your 1st time.

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Welcome @LIJOE!! Happy to have you here. I am on my second grow so wonā€™t be much help. I grow in living soil, photoperiod plants (clones), cheap lights (get good ones), a 4x2 cloudline tent (good for 2-3 plants), and a 4"cloudline exhaust with carbon filters.

I will tag a few growers that helped me and they can tag others to bring in more expertise. This community will get you through! There is no wrong way to grow - we all do it differently.

@Covertgrower @MeEasy @anon33684698 @Mark0427 @CalamityJane @STC_Cultivator @emgoldslo

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Thanks for the tag @JaneQP

I agree with @GreenSnek but want to add this is an addictive hobby and $500 is a good start but you may outgrow everything you buy.

4x4 tent is good. I would invest in the s6 with filter so if you do grow 4 plants you have enough cfm

Lights are expensive. Save and buy the best/biggest/dimable light you can or you end up not getting the harvest you want and upgrading your light.

Donā€™t buy a kit!

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Thank you to you and @JaneQP @GreenSnek . No kit! Okay so maybe I will allow for a $700 budget and get the kick ass lighting. I can eat ramen noodles for a month. I will start looking into the tents you mentioned. I canā€™t tell you all how helpful this is.

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First question - where are you going to gro outside inside ? Space size ? Medium?

Inside. No more than a 4X4 tent max for now. Doing Blueberry, Northern Lights, and Amnesia all autoflower. Now I am probably going to start out with 3 of one kind probably blueberry.

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Iā€™ll give you this set then you can add on later but this are the main components , vivosun tent 4x4 , 650 r from HLG , and whatever you are going to use for medium since you didnā€™t answer the question @LIJOE , anyways if you go in a 2x4 you probably will cut price of light in half do 260 from HLG- and welcome :pray:, please do your research at this stage you can waiste a lot of money in product that you donā€™t need or are not good or have the best start posible ,something that wonā€™t need to be upgraded later , itā€™s hard for you to tell since you donā€™t know what to expect and never tried none of this stuff, just do a trust fall on this grower - donā€™t cheap out on light or medium- you can be cheap on the tent - starts with the 3 main components - good light good medium, and environment- just get a tent and a clip 6 inch fan for now then add as you go an as needed

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Thanks for the tag @JaneQP ā€¦ @LIJOE I think you could get a little better setup if you were to piece it out but if you go with a kit Iā€™d probably say this Mars setup would work for 3 or 4 autos in 3 gallon pots

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088STYP1X/ref=emc_b_5_t

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I donā€™t want to discourage anyone but 3 plants for a first grow is pretty ambitious. You probably expect 3 of the same strain to behave the same and have the same needs. Spoiler alert! Like children, they will each have a distinct ā€œpersonalityā€.
One or two maybe to get the basics down and start to develop your own style or stagger the planting by 45 days for the ā€œperpetual harvestā€.
3 plants done fairly well could yield close to a half pound of good bud. Are you prepared to properly store and handle that much at once? Hate to see a successful harvest ruined due to poor storage, ie: mold or excess drying out.

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Thank you for your input. I had not considered all of that. I know I want to do more than 1 because if 1 fails then Iā€™m at zero. Maybe start with 2? I certainly wouldnā€™t want to deal with mold or waste!

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If it were me, I would get a 4ā€™ x 4ā€™ from Mars Hydro, the S4 or S6 from AC Infinity, and 2 QB288 V2 Rspec boards from Horticulture Lighting Group. I am not 100% sure if 2 of the QB288s will be enough for a 4ā€™ x 4ā€™, but HLG definitely has a light that would work. I had a SpiderFarmer SF1000 in my tent, switched to HLG, and can absolutely tell a difference, and so do my plants. I recommend Happy Frog soil from Fox Farms.

Also going to need other things like nutrients, pH and EC meter, pH up/down, pots, timer for lightsā€¦ Amongst other stuff too that Iā€™m forgetting Iā€™m sure.

For the pH and EC meters, I recommend the Apera PC60, it does pH, EC, and a few other things that arenā€™t needed, but it does pH down to the hundredth decimal so you get a more accurate reading, has a very handy backlight, the probes are replacable, and you can get a special soil probe too. Only thing is it is like $130. It is worth it in my opinion, however if you donā€™t want to spend that much, I STRONGLY recommend going with the Apera PH20 (around $50?) and an Apera EC20 (around $40?).

PH is very important as it is how alkaline/acidic a solution is. Cannabis likes a slightly acidic soil, so most shoot for 6.5 when using soil. Too high/low can cause nutrient issues, which is when the EC meter can come in handy, as it is used to test how ā€œstringā€ your solution is, or the runoff water from your plant when you water it.

I agree with @HMGRWN. 2 sounds manageable, but in all honesty the likelihood of ā€œlosing oneā€ is pretty dang lowā€¦ These are fairly hardy plants and plus, you have us to help, brother!

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I have started using ā€œGrove Bagsā€. Supposed to hold Rh at 62% and preserve terpines using some (alien? :alien:) technology. I like 'em so far. :+1:t2:

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XD alien technology

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Thanks for the tag @JaneQP!

Hi @LIJOE and welcome! These guys appear to have you sorted!

I will say though, I bought a kit and the only thing Iā€™ve needed to upgrade from it was the light. I got a Mars Hydro TS1000, so as @MeEasy said, the Mars Hydro kit might actually be worth a shot. They always have discounts on their site over here so you might find one at a good price.

Iā€™m set to watch this one! Good luck whichever options you choose.

CJ. :v:

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All due respect I donā€™t agree. I did 6 Autoā€™s on my first grow. I used it as a learning adventure. I would stick to the 3 that you original planned. If you lose one youā€™ll still have 2. You can even lose 2 and still have 1 to get to harvest.

Just my .02 cents worth

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Thatā€™s what I figured @CalamityJane and if he decides to expand later he would have a good auto or veg tent with this one. Itā€™s a nice enough little setup that you could easily get 1/4-1/2 pound out of it every 8-12 weeks depending on what you put in it.

Also @LIJOE I forgot to welcome you to the neighborhood, hope you stick around and have fun with us

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Iā€™d buy:

10-20 pack of Northern Lights photoperiod seeds
An HLG 260 v2 R-spec kit
A 2ā€™x4ā€™x7ā€™min height tent
An AC infinity 4ā€ fan

You can wait a month or two to buy a carbon filter

2 plants should fill out that tent completely.

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I would recommend starting with 2 in a 2x4 and 4 in a 4x4 but you need the light to cover that space properly and that like all your budget

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@LIJOE I think @KeystoneCops has hit the nail on the head. This is a perfect list for your budget.

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