Gorrilla cookie auto day 42, short veg, flowered at day 30, and didn’t have a typical pre-flower stretch. Can I chalk this up to an odd pheno? too strong of light? ppfd was in the 400’s since 2 weeks in. Resin prodiction has been high, and the few bud sites are filling out well.
May have underwatered for the first 3 weeks, could this cause an auto to “stress flower”?
Indoor - size of grow - 4x4
Origin of seeds - Gorrilla cookies auto fastbuds
Regular, feminized, or autoflower? Auto
Origin of water. PH, EC/TDS of source water? Distilled ph to 6.5
Nutrients or fertilizer system used. Gaiai green 4-4-4 at 3 weeks, 2-8-4 at 36 days as it was in “true flower” I.M.O
What typr of lighting are you using? LED, HID (MH, CMH, HPS), or Fluorescents? Aerolight 150se 150w L.E.D x 4 only running 2 at 18" over canopy. Ppfd 700
What are the temps in your growspace? Day / Night? Day 77-78 night 72-73
What is the RH = relative humidity in your growspace? Day / Night? Day 45, night 50
AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier? Humidifier during veg
Do you have a Ventilation system? Size? 4", 6"? 6 inch aerozesh
It’s really hard to underwater a cannabis plant. Cannabis withstands dry soil far better than it will wet soil. The symptoms of underwatering are drooping and slowed growth.
General question: are you monitoring runoff pH and PPM?
I see some good comments on PPFD. 800 is a solid minimum. I run my plants at 1,100 PPFD. Any more than that gives diminishing returns.
New to growing, is “fastbuds” auto implying they are quicker than regular auto seeds. There are some autos that finish in 70 days or so.
Noticed the fabric pot, noticed you didnt use alot of the pot, lots of unused depth inside fabric pot. Just observations.
Its thougt in general, big root, bigger fruit.
Welcome to the forum. Currently on fifth grow ever all autos. The canna family advised to get good light and good genetics before starting. We did, and have had 4 very positive outcomes. We, the wife and I are over 60. We grow in a rv shower were controling mother nature is tough to control. Easy with 24 hr on call service from the community.
Autos can flower as early as 2 weeks and as late as 12 weeks at the extremes, so harvest times can range from 12 to 22 weeks. That said, most autos will flower at between 4 and 7 weeks, so typical harvest times from seed range from 14 to 17 weeks.
I have my lights set to 18 inches above the top canopy, which is the recommended height from the vendor, and a “gyre” or suspended tower fan, blowing across the leds dispersing the heat.
Since you asked, I’ll say yes, something definitely got messed up. I don’t mean that as criticism in any way, just for information purposes.
In all likelihood something you did or the conditions in the grow space stunted her or triggered early flowering.
What are you using to determine the PPFD?
More importantly though, I believe the Gaia Green nutrients you listed are organic, correct? If so, you should be watering differently than those of us using salt based nutrients. In an organic grow, you need to water more often but in lower quantities. You don’t want the soil to dry out because you’re relying on the microbial life not only to make the nutrients available to the plant, but also to maintain a proper pH level in the root zone. Letting the soil get too dry isn’t good for microbes and fungi. I think you would have had much better results if you lightly watered every day or other day.
On a more positive note, the few autos that I’ve stunted over the years might not have yielded a lot when it comes to quantity, but the quality has always been very good.
I only grow autos. Here’s a link to my current journal if you want to check out the way I do things.
I use a light meter purchased from amazon.
For the first 21 days i water sparingly every other day keeping the top inch of soil moist, out from the stem, gradually moving toward the outer edges, but at 21 days i was instructed to water to run off.
So realistically I can manipulate the day it flowers, by inducing stress? Could i inturn flower early like this, and run 8 week turns than? I dont expect this plant to run a full 10 to 12 weeks, but the density and resin production is far superior to my other plants.
The problem with that is the top inch of soil isn’t where the roots are trying to develop. You need to water fully so the roots can make their way down in the pot. In all likelihood your roots weren’t able to spread out sideways and down nearly as fast as they wanted to because the soil was too dry.
I don’t think that’s a great idea. If that’s what you want I think it would make more sense to use photo period seeds and flip them as early as you like. Autos and photos have very similar flowering times, so intentionally stressing an auto to try and trigger early flowering seems like a risk for no reason.
Thanks for the reply, I will adjust my watering routine next run. With organics theres always two sides. Some say you need wet/dry, some say constantly damp. It was aparent at 1 month this plant didn’t take as the others did, no pre-flower stretch, node spacing was very tight, and it instantly went into a true flower. I figured it was a fight or flight response to stress, but it got the same watering, lighting, and nutrients the rest did, and they all look normal.
not from my experience, I’ve grown several Fast Bud strains and harvest time was the same as any other autos I’ve grown 