1st timer and started with WW and BB auto. My plant (WW) started well but by week 2 1/2 something went wrong. My soil isn’t too moist, in fact border line dry in my opinion. Im following the nute guide but may have missed something along the way. Can’t find an image out there to confirm my issue but hoping somone on hear knows exactly what I got going on and how to fix it. See pic.
Are you growing in coco?
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Looks like pH issue to me.
Is coco buffered?
What are you feeding and at what pH are nutrients going in?
You don’t want coco to dry out.
A little undeveloped for 2.5 weeks, what’s the temps and RH in the grow space or are you using a humidity dome. As mentioned earlier coco shouldn’t be dry. I would recommend feeding around 800 PPMs at a PH of 5.8 of your base nutrients, I use a shot glass to feed or water during this stage. Watering about every other day about 3-4” away from the main stem to promote those roots to spread out. Over all they look pretty good and with them being photo period they have time to get back on track
Growing in coco is completely different than growing in soil.
The coco needs to be wet, some coco growers feed several times a day.
Coco needs cal-mag added to every feeding.
I’m a coco grower and won’t go back to soil because I like controlling what nutrients the plant receives, but you need to spend some time learning about growing in coco at “coco for cannabis” dot com. They are a wealth of information.
Im using ILGM nutrient package.
The temp flux between 79 -85 in my grow tent. Humidity 45%-55% The PH level of my soil after watering to ensure my Coco had enough moisture (it was very dry after about 2 inches or so down) varying between ~5.5 - 7.5. I have Cal-Mag arriving today. Is it okay to use that in addition to the ILGM nutrient pack?
Ph varied in each place i probed with the meter.
The cal-mag gets added to every feeding, so yes, start with cal-mag, then add the nutrients. You need to adjust pH to get good results. It requires a quality meter to measure and adjust pH.
Apera but Bluelab are two brands commonly mentioned on the forum for measuring pH. If you are confused and need help you can ask for help picking something out. Growing in coco requires a pH of 5.8-6.0 give or take, soil requires a pH of 6.2-6.8 for proper uptake of nutrients. You will also need to invest in pH up and pH down to adjust the pH of your mixture.
The process is take your water, add cal-mag, then nutrients as listed on feeding chart, adjust pH, then feed.
Using coco requires cal-mag, if you use RO (reverse osmosis) or distilled water that requires even more cal-mag. If you are using tap water be conservative with the amount of cal-mag added and use a little less then suggested on the bottle.
Appreciate the advice. The PH up and and PH down is awesome part of my order that arrives tomorrow. (Delivery was supposed to be today but changed to tomorrow)
I followed the process you suggested and my seem to respond well. I have a little upward curling of some of the . Is that okay or am I introducing another issue? My second is doing well its never showed any deficiency signs but i applied your method to it as well. Im still having a hard time getting my Coco Perite PH down under ~7.0 - ~6.9. I was hoping to maintain around ~6.0-~6.5. How long does it take to see PH level adjust in Coco? What’s confusing is my that has never shown signs of deficiency doing PH level has always been the same as my struggling . Im using a Three-Way Meter to check my PH. Is there an immediate reading when you place the probe in or should I leave it in for a few minutes to get an accurate reading? Am going to add pictures of both plants with the meter reading. Hopefully you can make it out.
Any advice? Both are 3 weeks old.
First off, you can’t trust that meter, get rid of it or use it on house plants where inacutate readings don’t matter as much.
One of the advantages of coco is that it doesn’t have a bunch of organic matter effecting pH so it’s easy maintaining a proper pH just by making sure that the feeding is in the proper pH range of 5.8-6.0. I never check the pH of my coco grows and they seem to do just fine.
I also found a nutrient line that is always in the proper pH range when mixing so I don’t even bother checking the pH of feedings anymore.
If you want to up your game and make the vegging and flowering stages take off consider looking into AutoPots. They continually bottom feed the plants and give them the exact amount of nutrients that the plant can use by using a reservoir that holds enough feedings for a week or more. I’m gone 5 days a week and I never have to worry about the plants while I’m gone away.
Oh, and don’t worry about upward or downward tilt of leaves, you would be amazed at how much the leaves move during the day if you watched a time lapse movie.
I’ve been looking up the autopots. There’s a couple different options out there. Any thoughts on these?
I have both of those products, and although they seem similar they are very much different.
The AutoPot is designed to bottom feed the plants through the reservoir. It needs to be used with a medium which can stay damp. Coco and perlite is an obvious choice, but soil can be used if mixed with at least 50% perlite.
The ACInfinity bases are designed for top feeding of the plant with the bases collecting runoff. The bases can be filled with plain water to keep the plants happy a few days longer. For instance, this summer I did some outside grows using soil and ACInfinity bases and I would feed on the weekends, then fill the base with about 1 gallon of water which would keep the plant happy until the following weekend when I got back home (I’m gone Monday through Friday).
The ACInfinity bases can be used with various soil mixtures and feeding options allowing for organic grows. The AutoPots are 100% not organic, relying on the fertilizer in the reservoir to feed the plants.
The ACInfinity bases can hold about 1 gallon of water to extend watering by a few days, the AutoPots hold as much feeding as the reservoir is big, allowing you to go on vacation for weeks at a time.
I greatly prefer the AutoPots with coco and have tremendous success with them because they take little effort which works fine with me because I can do everything that I need to on the weekends.
Seedling looks great Grow Bro. Seedlings require very little water and a lot of humidity. I would take a clear solo cup, mist the inside and cover the plant, remove daily for fresh air and to remist the dome. Water a ring around the outside of the dome to promote root growth every 3rd day or so with about a shot glass or 2. Remove the cup completely when the leaves are touching the sides. I would also recommend removing that peat cup at transplant time. Autos or photo period plant?
With the autopot, is it as simple as taking my that are already in 5gal fabric pot and setting them in the base? Im having a hard time figuring out by the pictures if the pot and base is a complete system that will require transplant. I dont think so but not sure.
Also, I started my grow directly in the 5gal fabric pot to avoid transplant stress. Would i need to top feed from germination thru a point in the veg stage where its safe to say the roots have made it deep enough to draw the water/fertilizer?
Post some pics of the auto pot you have Growmie, and what is the plants age? I use the older version with good success
The AutoPot has a 10 inch diameter and works with almost all 3 gallon fabric pots, but will only work with 5 gallon pots designed to fit, most 5 gallon pots won’t unfortunately.
When you get the AutoPot it will come with a booklet answering any question that might come up, but you do have to top feed the plants until roots developed, usually 10-14 days after they start veg stage.
I always transplant my seedlings. I’ve seen videos where it suggests better root development from transplanting. In the last year or so I start my seedlings in nursery bags placed inside plastic pots.
This seedling popped its head out 3 weeks ago tomorrow. It is ready for transplant but I’m waiting until Friday when veg tent opens up.
You can see the strong root development when out of the plastic pot. All I do is plant the nursery bag into its 5 gallon pot. No stress, no shock. Takes right off.