A lot of great Topics for deficiencies. I have seen a lot of great answers as to what deficiencies my plants could be having but I feel more comfortable getting an answer from someone more knowledgeable to this topic than me.
3 1/2 weeks from seedling
Happy Frog Soil
400w vivosun vs4000 LED 80% 34" from canopy
Vivosun 4x4 Grow Tent 48"x48"x80"
75-78 Fahrenheit
48% humidity
bottled spring water for watering
Still waiting on Bergman’s complete nutrient kit. Arrives January 19th
I never (at least not anymore) put two plants in one pot. One is bound to be stronger and limit the growth of the other. If you do, ur gonna want a bigger pot.
Some of the leaves look ‘torn’ or ripped. Did you perhaps heavy hand them? Possible pests? Thats a worry Id work over IMMEDIATELY.
The twisty funny looking curl to leaves looks similar to what you see when pH is outta wack. Happy Frog out the bag with just bottled spring water should not be outta range at all. I mean bad batches of soil happen… it could also be something funky in the rootzone going on… maybe they dont like living together already?
The leaves ‘deficiency’ themselves… the leaves pointed towards the bottom of the screen on both plants (with the yellow edges) both look like either a P deficiency (should NEVER happen this soon, so that means pH lockout) or pretty bad N toxicity (which means you may have tried to sneak the plants an early feed).
Thank you for the reply. As this is the first time growing indoor I did have the thought of putting 2 plants in a 5gl could end up a problem. The reason is The seeds are from a local dispensary and are not autoflower or femanized so I had the thought of putting 2 plants into each of the five 5gl buckets that way once they show gender I could just pull the males and let the females do their thing. I can definitely get more buckets now knowing that 1 plant per 5gl bucket is already enough so thank you for that insight.
As you can tell you can definitely see a rip/tear at the bottom right leaf that was in fact my fault but. I dont think it would be a pest thing but i will keep that in mind for sure.
As far as ph. I have not check yet but my ph tester arrives in two days. before transplanting these two plants together, they where each in a normal sized dixie cup as had already started to look like this so i transferred them together in a bigger pot with more soil but that didn’t help. I do want to Note that i do have 5 more plants growing in the same tent but are not nearly as stress looking as these 2 and i’d also like to note that the other plants are two plants together in one pot as well and they seem to be thriving fine. I will indeed post the others as well so you7 can see it all at once and not just those 2 plants ive shown.
I have not fed early. I’m still waiting on the bergmans fertalizer kit to arrive. The only nutrients all of my plants have had is what’s in the soil and the bottles spring water. Notice in the picture you can tell i had just watered. Before these pictures today I haven’t watered in 3 days. within those 3 days from watering the soil under the top soil was still fairly moist and dark.
Now that i have gotten some replies i will take a photo of the full setup. not all the plants look like this.
Thanks for the reply. I’ll make sure to get more buckets for each plant for now on. My ph tester arrives in a couple of days. I’ll make sure to let you all know what the tests say.
After searching sites I realized this was the best place for friendly advice for sure!. I’ll make sure to post my ph level in a couple days. I’m intrigued to see. Took around 3-4 days to germinate all seeds and since germinated, I then put the germinated seeds into the soil and since then the light has been on for 18 hours and the light off for 6 hours also the light % has been on 80% out of 100% the light has a 20-40-60-80-100 setting and it is hanging 34 Inches from the top leaves of the plants.
Sounds like you have everything in pretty good order man. Maybe just 2 finicky ladies! The rest certainly look good!
And its not impossible to grow 2 in a pot, just kinda invites issues you dont want to have. By all means go ahead with the plan. If everything works out, ull learn a lesson and have 9 nice females that all yield lovely. If it doesnt? Ull still learn a lesson lol. Im here either way.
I have almost identical issue, a couple leaves look like a P deficiency, but not just one plant 6 out of 8. I have always grown same way with only couple of exceptions. Now I have them under lights vs outdoors. And this time I used starter pods think they were root riot. My dirt is mix of fox farm ocean forest and happy frog to cool it off a little. I have never seen this at seedling stage. They are still growing and I hit them with a little tiger bloom to bring up the P and they seem ok. But I want to understand what I have done wrong. I have 8 different types of plants growing, both indicas, sativas, and cross hybrids. Outdoors I had many other issues mainly my own overwatering and pests.
More info, I also hit them with a little recharge and improved my airflow which airflow was much better outdoors in my greenhouse. It doesn’t seem to be spreading anymore and as I said it seems like they are growing into normal veg mode. I am starting to point at the pods or the new cross mix of dirt. However the straight FF Ocean Forest dirt, I was burning up half my crop, so I tried mixing with Happy Frog to cool it down some. I am in desert, so unless stone or sand not much can grow in our regular soil. I fully blacked out my small greenhouse to try and do a winter grow, my lights are many and awesome, 6 x HLG QB96 V2 in a 4x4. Haven’t fired them all up yet, just running 2 and cranked them way down, bumping up brightness some now as they are getting bigger. I am going to water a little by tomorrow and was going to add a little cal-mag. With the Ocean Forest they shouldn’t need much nutes if at all right now.
My real main question is the lack of P deficiency common in seedling stage? I know many of the deficiency differences are pretty close in appearance. Main stems have not changed in color to add. This seems to be on lower leaves or mid leaves. Only a couple per plant. So I then tried to look them up and spray a very little water with tiger bloom and like I said they seemed to respond and grow more. Because they are so young I really don’t want to do a full flush, but will if I have to.
@ fearsometea
I Too, have 3 PH testers. Two as pictured and one with a peg meter. While I trust none of them I am able to verify they will change readings, in soil, when I chose to test some soil and cause PH +/- changes. My clones arrived in soil reading 5.5. I caused the 5.0 reading in a cut gal jug.
This device (shown), will read 7.0 for a NOT VALID or no change from turn-on 7.0 reading reading. I have found that a valid reading is preceded with a double letter read then scan from 9.0 down to settle at the presumed correct reading.