Need some assistance and advice please

Sorry, tap water is 75ppm about 8 ph.

The last time I fed, it was about 350ppm

Okay thank you. I see several issues. Number one your plant is consuming itself it has no access to nutrients. This is why all of your leaves are yellow Browning and burnt. I look at your plants picture from 10 days ago it’s like day and night. You got to fix this quick.

First off, you should not alternate water feed days your plant should be fed nutrients every single time you water

Second, on water only days it looks like you’re taking tap water phing it to 6 point something and feeding your plant the tap water. This is incredibly bad.

Tap water before you can adjust the pH must have a PPM of at least 175 PPM or adjusting the pH will not properly adjust. There’s very little molecules to stick to with 75 PPM. You would have been better off using distilled water and not phing.

How do you fix that?
Take your 75 PPM tap water and add 100 ppms of calcium magnesium. Now the water is safe to pH. You should pH it to 6.5.

Nevertheless as I mentioned above you should not be giving water only days. But I wanted to show you the above so you know this is what’s causing your problem more than likely. Your pH is severely off in your soil.

Moving forward, when you’re mixing your nutrient and coming up with a 305 feed that’s okay but you should be phing that feed to 6.5 not 6.2…

Here’s the bad news, take a look at your plant. All the yellow leaves with burnt brown spots are pretty much toast now. They’re not going to recover and they’re not going to fix themselves. On the bright side the plant can still survive and finish as long as you fix your mistakes and proceed with proper protocol.

You estimate you’re about 4 weeks into flower. That means you’ve been feeding since 4 weeks ago I’m assuming with your Fox farm nutrients.

I’m also going to assume you have not done a fox farm sledgehammer maintenance flush? Am I correct?

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Crap, that all definitely sounds like my mistakes for sure and certainly explains how I got here. Thanks again, I greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge and offering your time and help with my dilemma. I will make note of these things for future grows for sure.

Yes, I’ve only been using the Fox Farm nutes over the last month or so since flowering started.
I did use the FoxFarm BushDoctor Sledgehammer once, about 27 days ago.
Since I watered her with just water about 3 hours ago, what would you recommend the best course of action be for the immediate future?

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She’s going to finish. She’s not going to win the Beauty Contest but it’s salvageable. We all make mistakes as we have to learn.

The fix is easy but slightly time consuming… The most important thing is that your plant drys out well. Your actually due for the sledgehammer flush. However, I would skip it a do a little more aggressive flush.

How to fix it
On feed day.

1.) Mix 1 gallon of tap water with 3ml of Cal/mag let sit 10 min then add Fox Farm Trio at 3/4 strength with tap water. Use exactly the formula they suggest in the week of flower that you’re in. Do Not Adjust PH set this gallon to the side…

2.) Get a 5 gal bucket. Pour 3 gallons of tapwater into the bucket. Now measure the ppms of the tap water. Slowly add 1ml of Calmag at a time until your water reaches a total of 200ppm (it’s okay if it goes over a little). Now, add 15ml of sledgehammer to the water and mix well. Finally , adjust pH of the 3 gallons to 6.5ph

3.) from your 3 gallon bucket slowly water in your first gallon of Cal/mag water. Now dump the runoff water. Grab gallon number two begin watering. Now dump the runoff water.
Grab the last gallon of Cal mag water and slowly pour through the plant.

4.) now take the runoff water from this last gallon that you just poured, get a piece of paper write down the PPM and the pH of the runoff (I’ll ask you for this later) now empty the runoff catch tray

WAIT 2 HRS

5.) Grab the 3/4 strength Fox Farm Trio feed that you made in step 1. Shake or mix the gallon well and now PH adjust to 6.5

6.) very important document the feeds PPM (I’ll ask for it later)

  1. Now begin to feed your plant with it. Once you collect the runoff document the PPM and the pH of this runoff.

Note:
Once you have done the 7 steps above I want you to come back here, tag me, and post the following information…

A: The 3rd gallon flush runoff numbers both pH and ppm

B The intake PPM and pH of the gallon of feed you mixed.

C The runoff PH and PPM of the 3/4 strength feed you feed her.

Once you tag me with all the information above and I review your posting we’ll proceed from there

NOTE
Your plant is going to get very pissed off at this procedure. she’s going to wilt, bitch, moan and complain. But she’ll get over it in a day or so :smile:

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Hey good morning,
Thanks a lot for your detailed instructions and time putting it together. I reread it twice and understand what I need to do.
She’s starting to look a bit worse this morning. Do you still feel I should wait for things to dry out considering I watered her yesterday or would it be fine to do your instructed flush tonight?

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I would let it dry out. The damage is already done

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Understood, I think it would be at least about 3 days before things dry up in there. I will post back the numbers.
Thank you very much for your help and time,
I hope you have a good day!

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You’d run a risk of waterlogging it that’ll create a new issue if you were to not let it dry. Better safe than sorry.

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hey senpai i hope you’re having a good day and weekend.
i followed your steps earlier today, thank you again for your time and guidance to help me.

A: The 3rd gallon flush runoff numbers both pH and ppm
6.62 PH and 904 ppm on the last gallon flush

B The intake PPM and pH of the gallon of feed you mixed.
6.65 PH and 416 ppm in the trio feed gallon

C The runoff PH and PPM of the 3/4 strength feed you feed her.
6.72 and 775 ppm the run off from the trio feed gallon

i have some trouble getting the phosphoric acid measurements for reducing the PH. i add 1-3 drops to the gallon and it jumps from like 6.7 to 6.3ish, is that normal? do these numbers show anything good or bad?
Here are some photos from just now

have a good night!

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Did you mix the sledgehammer into the 3 gal flush?

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Yes, 3 teaspoons/ 15 ml

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Yes, the PH down acid is very pungent. One drop can cause the pH to reduce super fast. Sometimes I won’t even get a drop I’ll just dip the dropper into the mix and not even squeeze the plunger so it’s basically getting the residue off the glass and it drops the pH quick. You just got to be careful with it.

As to your question, do the numbers mean anything good or bad. The answer is yes, the numbers are good. Your ppms fall in on the low side but I personally made it to do just that. You definitely had a nice salt build up in your soil and the sledgehammer and 3 gallons will did the job. You’re very low ph adjusted to a runoff of 6.7 You’re On Target nicely. I do believe now your plant will be able to start consuming nutrients.

Question, do you have any microbial life additives that you feed your plant?

If the answer to that is no, I strongly suggest getting some microbial life into your soil and feeding it. To do so I strongly suggest advanced nutrients Voodoo Juice & Bud Candy

The Voodoo Juice is a mixture of 8 different live microbial life. And the Bud Candy is like a seven course dinner that feeds the microbial life. I strongly suggest it.

From here out, you’re watering practices have to be on point. You must let your plant dry out until it feels like a loaf of bread before watering again this gives your plant time to update oxygen through the root zone that it’s so desperately needs. When you feed her again if you pick up the pot you’ll notice that it feels like a gallon of milk. Pick it up everyday until it feels like a loaf of bread typically three to four days.

Also, when you feed your plant just before you water it make sure that you pH as close to 6.5 as you possibly can going in. Continue to document your runoffs.

On your next feed
I suggest on your next feed do the following…

Mix
1-1/4 gallons water
4 mil Calmag
13ml Big Bloom
4.5 ml Grow Big
9 ml Tigar Bloom
Now, PH the feed mix to 6.5 mix well
Then, document your total feed PPM and pH
Proceed to slowly water the plant.

Document the PPM and PH of the runoff and post it here tagging me. We’ll go from there

NOTE
Your plants has had some trauma. Allot of damaged leaves that aren’t going to recover. However, you’ll start noticing some changes in the positive. It takes time.

Keep your environment dialed in and water practices must be on point and she’s gonna finish just fine (not the beauty queen)

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Happy Cake Day :birthday: @OGIncognito

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Many thanks Grow Sis :love_you_gesture:

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No, I haven’t added anything additional. I got this little packet of mycorrhizal. I was going to add it for the next grow, should I add some to this one?

Also, with me going into 32 day of flower and 69th since germ, how much longer should I be feeding until starting to flush? The vgrow app is saying to begin flushing in about 12-15 days.

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You just flushed yesterday with what’s called a fox farm sledgehammer maintenance flush. Mark off 30 days on your calendar and do another flush. This time simply follow the instructions on the sledgehammer bottle.

Fox Farm requires/suggests that you flush every 30 days when utilizing their nutrient line

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No keep that mycorrhizal for your new transplants and future grows that’s slightly different. Those two products that I linked to you above are about the best on the market for microbial life. Not to mention perfect for products like Fox Farm nutrients that needs to flush from time to time it keeps your microbial life well alive and fed properly. Maintaining a good fungi microbial life in your soil is so important yet I see it neglected so much by new growers.

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Hey @Lostgirl Thank you again for sharing the expertise and guidance, I will pick both up. Hopefully my wife doesn’t give me shit for having so many feeding bottles lol.

In regards to the flush I was asking about, I thought about a week before harvest, it was recommended to flush with just ph’d water 1-2 times before clipping and putting to dry?

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Okay. I just wanted to point out that it’s very important that you maintain your required monthly flush of sledgehammer. It’s important to keep the salt content down.

As for flushing for harvest. I usually take all nutrients away a week before harvest. However, I use a very low salt nutrient. For you I would recommend once you start seeing mostly all cloudy and just a few Amber I would start the flush. It takes about 2 weeks to reach the proper Amber once they show up.

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Hey Lostgirl, I hope you’re doing well and had a good week.

The plant and the numbers inside the tent showed it was time for a water so I got the numbers going in at 460 ppm and 6.56ph
Run off came to 6.70 pH and 800 ppm

Are these good numbers for the runoff?
Time flies but apparently I’m 35 days into flower.
Thanks again for your time and help! Have a great night!

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