Hope these are ok I’m bad at photographing plants in the right lighting
Definitely got something going on in the root zone. I’d address your ph and take a look at your runoff tds
Thanks, so I learn, what specifically are you seeing that leads you to that? Overall color?
Yes the color. And you see the stems start from green and turn purple? That’s a good way to see an issue with your root zone.
Thanks. Purple I associated with calmag def.
When you say root zone what all could this be? Ph in/out last measure was good and I recalibrated my pen when I first noticed some things.
Could it just be roots not getting enough airflow in the plastic? Or am I looking at other items?
No bug signs otherwise? Thanks all @imSICKkid
What are they getting fed? What is your runoff ph/ppm
I’ll snag updated numbers tmrw. Ff trio but no tiger yet of course. Week ago they were around 1350 with 6.2 ph. I gave two water and calmag only then yesterday was about 700 ppm of ff.
Tomorrow will be water and calmag I’ll grab numbers.
Thanks for your attention have a good night
Morning all. I turned down the lights and they still look droopy, something is def wrong. Outside of bugs I can’t seem to identify, it has to be root issues at @imSICKkid stated. Ive read root bound pots won’t cause this, I’ve seen full plants flowered in solos. But my last attempt is going to be transferring one into my 5 gal fabric and give it another ph’ed water, grab some vitals, and then wait a couple days to see if she re-acts better compared to the rest in pots.
My other issue is that I am running out of room to continue veg, both horizontal and vertical. Been LSTing them along, but they need to get into flower soon. I hope this little test confirms they just needed to breathe better in the roots, then I have to decide which ones to keep and transfer.
Thanks again for the help everyone
6.2ph going in? Are you in soil?
6.5-6.8 in/ 6.2 out.
FF soil.
@Bulldognuts hey brother, I believe you use FF trio soil also? If so question for you or anyone else watching.
Im gonna do a test and put one of the 3gal plastic plants back into proper 5gal fabric. I am at the point where I have burned out the nutes in the FFOF. I need another 1.5 gals or so of soil for the new pot, but don’t want to deal with OF - I want to control nutrients at this point.
My shop recommended the 70/30 coco/perlite mix. But I thought coco would require more watering, and that is not what I want.
I don’t think they offer an inert soil.
Any help? I don’t want to mess with the 4 weeks of burning the nutes in the soil, I want control of the feeding now for this run. I will assess alternates for next run.
Hang up and listen, thanks all have a great day!
I only used it on first 3 grows. While all 3 turned out OK in the end I had issues during each of the 3. I was also using FF dry nutrients during flower on the last 2. Starting my 4th grow I switched to Jack’s and haven’t looked back. Amazing results and no deficiencies or issues.
The only thing I can think of is possibly using FF Happy Frog. It’s not as hot as OF. But my experience in soil is limited to OF and the 50/50 mixture I’m currently using with Jack’s.
I started a new thread. Anyway it’s a bug. Micro scopic and in the roots.
Maybe forked in this run unless I go atomic?
Can’t heart that. What was/is it? How did we come to have it? What are the options to get rid of it?
Edit… never mind. Find the other thread you so obviously mentioned 
I don’t know what to do. Researching now hope the broader community can help.
Likely came from an outside cut. Scoped the leaves but they may have hitched a ride in Rockwool. That’s on me.
Now debate is to just scrap and move on. Two months of time and $$ drained so tough decision.
May end up throwing good money after bad I believe the saying goes. We’ll see what folks say and I’ll let y’all know
Greetings… I’m fighting the same problem.
Broad mites I believe…
I sprayed with Azamax twice 3 days apart-killed some but not all…
Then I coated my babies with DE earth and did a hot-air treatment (110°f for 1 hour)…
Still not quite gone, so yesterday I sprayed Neem oil.
Have to wait and see maybe another Neem next week.
These little bastards are tough to get rid of…
Good Luck 
My babies about 10 days in Veg…
Good luck, how do you think you got them?
I never updated but I cleared the tent. I was a week w/in flowering but they weren’t looking good, I wasn’t married to the genetics I was running, and didn’t have time to solve one thing after another. Made the call to start over set back three months rather than hoping to salvage this grow and possibly set myself back six if things didn’t work out. Plus, gonna run some new gear that I am pumped about.
It sounds like you are doing the right things, and given your early on hope you can get it under control. Easier to fight now than when halfway through flower. Good luck @DirtBug let us know how it goes.
I think I brought them in from my outside veggie garden. I try to remember to change clothes before going inside my tent.
I also read that pets can bring in critters also. Both my puppy and the kitty love to sleep under the lights…LoL
Good Growing