Have you tried it yet >
and if so what do you think about the product
Product description
MAMMOTH P
Hydro to Soil / University Tested / Bloom Enhancer
MAMMOTH P the first organically derived microbial inoculant that maximizes phosphorus and micronutrient cycling to maximize bud growth, increase yield and enhance plant health.
16% - increase in bud yield
6% - increase in stem strength
100% - satisfaction guaranteed
The Benefits
MAMMOTH P is the first organically derived microbial inoculant that maximizes phosphorus and micronutrient cycling to maximize bud growth, increase yield, and enhance plant health. The best organic bloom food.
Unleash your plant’s full growth potential with MAMMOTH P. MAMMOTH P is a university-tested patent-pending microbial biostimulant that naturally elevates phosphorus and micronutrient availability to support healthy vigorous plant growth. For use during vegetative and flowering stages in all media – from hydroponic to organic potting mixtures to soils.
MAMMOTH P utilizes a consortia of natural beneficial soil bacteria that liberate phosphorus and other nutrients into a form that plants can efficiently utilize. This results in more efficient use of fertilizer and soil nutrients by plants. University-testing has demonstrated faster, more vigorous, and more consistent growth for a variety of plants- from turfgrass to vegetables to medicinal botanicals. Use with every watering, or with each reservoir fill through the blooming stage. Shake well before each use and never mix concentrates. MAMMOTH P from Growcentia can be used in conjunction with any nutrient formula and is safe with all pH buffers. Our Story – Growcentia was founded by a team of three Colorado State University soil microbiologists that share a passion for enhancing soil health and promoting sustainable agriculture.
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Here is more detail about it, amazon has it and my organic world hydro shop has it too. I am going to buy some today and treat on plant and see if it helps build bigger bids like they say, Treated that plant with some roots bloom tea I had and waiting to see if new growth still coming out green with no purple on edges of leaves, funny i am not too worried about it, looks like it might be some wicked weed. hhahaha thx for the reply brother !
mammothmicrobes .com/about/
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Don’t know if I am going to buy that stuff, very expensive and looking this morning I am not too concerned , looks like what has been happening all along on this grow with 10 plants in super soil, I have been watching this grow every day and reading the plants, I see where a deficiency slightly shows but then corrects itself. I might be crazy but it is what i have seen, They look like they been fighting too much nitrogen. I have feather meal and blood meal in there, both are like 13-0-0 and now I am going to replace the blood meal with alfalfa meal which is 2-0-2 . I figure that it is going to be better but will only tell on next run. Other thing is the steamed bone meal, I know this is from a company that wants you to buy their product and marketing is involved in this article but they state that -
5 lbs steamed bone meal - This is a by-product from the Cattle industry and is really not a good input for organic soil production. Fish bone meal however is great for this same purpose and is safer to use.
I can put in extra fish bone meal, calls for 5 oz of steamed bone meal and 5 ounces of fish bone meal, so I am going to put 10 oz of fishbone meal . Do you see any problem with that or it is just common sense? I am trying to get away bad and go with what is good. @Budbrother
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Thank You for taking the time for this info
I copy and pasted to my soil file and will add this info to it, if all goes well
and adding more fishbone is a great idea and will change the recipe to reflet that my friend.
This is just what we all need to do and it will get so much better it will blow all of us away … lmao
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Then I read this and wonder which direction to go 
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5 lbs Bloom bat guano - Guano is very expensive and really not neccessary. This is a fast release nutrient and is more in line with the feed the plant regimen instead of soil building. That and harvesting guano is rarely safe and sustainable, there are many reasons to avoid this… Plus the Fish bone meal that we just mentioned has you covered already along with all the other plant based amendments and worm castings that you should be using.
If that is so, why is it in the recipe ?
Here is the one in question-
4 weeks since flip, 3 weeks showing pistols , plants been automatically correcting themselves thru this run.
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Did you use the Bat Guano with this run.
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No, 2 days ago I was all set up to make another mix of super soil, then @MackMurder 
put up that article from “build a soil” and got my attention. So I put off the next mix for a few days till I get what I want in it together. I am glad I did not make that mix yet and in a way it was good that murder chimed in.
I’m still learning a great deal. I’m on my first grow but as you can tell I do question everything and put as much work into finding answers as I can. Whether its bouncing ideas off of people on the forums or emailing companies direct. Or trying to find notes of scientific studies done in universities. I’m always on the hunt..what I like about this forum as opposed to rollitup or thc farmer is you guys discuss and debate something a topic with respect and receive other peoples ideas very well. Those other forums are toxic and nothing but knowitalls with their smartass comments.
Really glad I found this place👌
Heres the email I received from buildasoil
New reply for the ticket #SUP00010794
Good morning,
Zach B. here with B.A.S. There really isn’t anything “super” about Subcool’s super soil. We actually took some of his used supersoil and had it tested earlier in the year and re-amended it with our inputs to get the soil back to a nice nutrient and mineral composition. I believe Subcool shared this in some capacity via one of his outlets.
Epsom salts are only to be used when a magnesium deficiency is 100% diagnosed. Once magnesium is added to the soil, it is hard to flush it out. Most of our soils, and other no-till soils tend to have adequate amounts of magnesium with the level of compost being used in the base. Calcium levels and availability tend to be more of the issue. Calcium is coming from the compost, crustacean meal, and oyster shell flour. In a couple of our recipes, we also have Premium Montmorillonite (Calcium Bentonite) added.
Thank you for contacting us and choosing BuildASoil. Please don’t hesitate to reply to this email, or give us a call at 855-877-7645 Monday - [Friday 9:00 am - 5:30 pm](calendar:T5:Friday 9:00 am - 5:30 pm) MTN if we can be of any further assistance.
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What a great reply. I really like how he mentioned epsom salts.arent necessary until you have a 100% diagnosed deficiency. It gives a fella alot of options and could help prevent lockouts or salt buildup…And this is why we ask questions💪
Also sparky Im sure If you wanted a second opinion on adding or subtracting build a soil would be more than happy to answer any questions. The responded to me in a day
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Welcome to the forum @MackMurder and good luck with your first grow. Much to learn for sure.
Many paths to a successful harvest.
I’ve looked into the build a soil products and it looks like they have some good stuff.
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I use fish bone meal at 1/2 cup per 7.5gal (1 CF). The alfalfa has lots of or excellent qualities. I now grow that as well for my uses. I even feed it to the worms.
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I used MammothP for about a year. It showed noticeable results. At the time it wasn’t recommended for use in living soil. That may have changed. Either way I used 1 ml per 2 gal in my teas.
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@garrigan62 @zparkie2
Heres another supersoil company out of ontario canada.
I sent them an email as well asking them about blood meal thing and soft rock phosphates and heavy metals and this I’d what they responded with. Actually they make some really good points.
Hi Mike,
I’ll try to answer your concerns below. You are entirely correct, in that it is far better to hit your seeds, sprouts or clones early on with a good myco product, than to add it to your mix hoping that the roots wander into a spore.
We mix our soil completely, then let it sit for three weeks to ‘cook’. The temperature has settled down by then, and it is safe to plant into.
Black Swallow has been in business for approx.. 4 years- small family run business built on a passion for the symbiotic relationship between plant and the life in the soil. Oh, and cannabis- forgot the cannabis passion!
We also rely on a bit of feather meal and blood meal in our mix. However, we do vet our suppliers and obtain our own organic certification for the products we use. So not only all of the products we use for the mix are accepted for organic applications, but the KIS mix itself is now also listed. I can see some objection for the use of the blood and feather from a vegan point of view. But then one would also likely object to the use of the fish bone meal and possibly the frass.
I myself am vegetarian, and would far rather see the blood and feather waste be used and processed in a manner that increases the ability of the soil to pull carbon out of our atmosphere, and that increases the nutritional brix and health of the plants grown in it- than to see it go to landfill. However, I do certainly recognize and respect other points of view regarding the use of such materials. I understand your feeling that blood meal is a dirty ingredient, however I do not find it any more ‘dirty’ than cow, worm or insect waste, which give immense contributions to a healthy soil biology.
All rock powders have the potential to increase heavy metals such as aluminum and cadmium. Because of this we have had the soft rock phosphate tested for heavy metals, and found that they fall within the safe guidelines necessitated for the organic application which we obtained for this product. That said, the nature of the application is such that if I obtain my SRP from any other source than the current one we use, we would need to go through the testing and submit it for review again.
Yes, we do make the pumice available, however I consider it a ‘luxury’ aeration amendment. This has left rice hulls and perlite as the only other two real options [lava rock, again because deposits are not found in Ont, must be trucked in from BC, and would also fall into the luxury category.] Both of these have their pros and cons. However, we are currently experimenting with a new wood fiber that was developed for aeration that is very promising, and is increasingly being used in the nursery industry. We think this will make a nice contribution to our soil mix, but need to satisfy a couple questions through our own trials first!
Rob Knechtel
137 Nelson St
Brantford Ontario
N3S 4B5
O [519 770 0629](tel:519 770 0629)
C [519 861 5330](tel:519 861 5330)
So it looks like theres alot of different options out there to keep peace of mind and growing organic..
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You are definitely not afraid to ask questions @MackMurder! Thanks for all the good info.
Hey guys awsome thread. Was wondering if you mind if i chime in now and again im in my first super soil grow and 2nd grow all together. Im using Garrigans soil and having amazing results. This is my passion now my whole yard is going to be converted to living organics this spring. Most of you have seen this new grow. Glad i found this thread.
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Hey @zparkie2 supersoil with compost teas is the way to go. Had a KILLER season last grow with such. Weather got rough. High humidity/rain. MOLD took most of it. But definitely go supersoil with added teas. There are a few recipes available from @garrigan62. A-TEAM GRADENING Also sells tea pods. I used them weekly. Good luck, great grow, man.
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Yeah, did okay with super soil, but have moved on to no till, living soil, have learned so much. I do have a great tea recipe for flower only if I need it. I am using Bio Char which does wonders for you plants, and I make my own soil where I don’t have to put flower in bottom of pot and veg in top, my whole pot is living soil. I use some products from BAS and and top dress bokashi and craft blend, water with regular water, SI and epsom salt. If start showing a calcium def. I use ground up egg shells soaked in vinegar for a few days. Gets immediate results. My plants in the living soil are doing great. They are 5 NA’s and a DP auto and have a PC clone going also.
crystal clones are in the red cups.
I am using coconut water , yucca, and a alfalfa tea for them. And I inoculate the soil with microbials every 2 weeks.
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Cheers thanks for the reply but after a bad experience with deficient plants using super soil I gave up on it. I use an organic nutrient line with pro mix hp (peat moss perelite).
Amendments, compost tea, it all costs way more and takes more time than using a nute line. And according to every article on the internet other than a few forums compost tea is bullshit. It dont hurt but it dont help more than just using proper compost.
It actually left a really bad taste in my mouth. Boogie brew. Kootney Biological soils. Stepwell soil. They charge an arm and a leg for amendments. Tea. Etc…
and at the end of the dau it’s all just snake oil. No proof or scientific studies show compost tea is better than compost. It’s just bro science. And it’s a shame.
And the end results is not worth the money or the hassle than just using a good organic nute line or nute line with a flush, and a month or two to cure. 20200305_212034|375x500
I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade I mean I tried it. But in order to get my plants to harvest in that supersoil I had to add synthetic nutes and the 200 dollars I spent on grow and bloom top dress and tea and air stones and pumps and blah blah blah was just pointless. It didnt fix a deficient plant.
Anyways theres my rant. I’ll go back to growing with compost one day but will never again fuck with teas.
Happy growing and good luck
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I am never without my tea… lol
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Garrigan, Did yours autos ever kick into to auto drive? After growing 10 autos I decided never again.