Light Brands and wattage output

Yea I got 4 kids and the plant I work at just shut down. Next year I’ll buy
another 600w lite

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Starting out the 300w clones are cheap and work well and if you can get a second you will do really well but with one you will still get good amount for yourself
When feeding only mix your nutes at around half strength your plant will not use more then that and you will salt up faster and waste the other half down the drain. The directions are based on perfect conditions, 1000w of light and recycle system.

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@Iva never hit specs on Advance or Apache Tech tells me this is the real deal ?

There isnt much difference between the expensive and cheap LEDs well not enogh for the price differnce anyway.
They all use the same LEDs most of the time (Not the really cheap ones they tend to use cheaper batches that didnt pass QC) and some drivers alot of the time. I have never seen a meanwell driver in a shop led before
Some have nice looking reflectors or cases but inside they are the same. This isnt all leds but is correct for most
Most leds will outlast a warranty but its still nice to have.
Most well known brands have a quality level to uphold thats why I always recommend well known brands
Alot of the cheaper unknown brands are just after the sales and do not worry about word of mouth or returning customers because there are always new growers that see the price and think its a great deal wrongly trusting the false claims of the flashy ad.
In 6-12 months they will change their shop front name and get the next wave of new growers.
I am unable to get Advance or Apache here but I can get Kind leds.
I have opened up a Kind and the parts in there are the same as lower priced ones but they are the water proofed ones.
Dont get me wrong they tend to be better LEDs with a fuller over all spectrum but still I think they are over priced for what they are. Almost $3k here for the big one is way too much.
I do like the built in timer in the kinds and I want to add some thing like that to my next build
Sun rise and twilight sound cool + the faster change over to flower too.

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I seen a video that was posted by MacG and a guy built his own Led and his design was out performing the Apache Tech in a side by side grow with only white lights , but the quality of the lights and the warranty is worth the investment I believe .

Iva http://ilgmforum.com/users/iva
October 15

Starting out the 300w clones are cheap and work well and if you can get a
second you will do really well but with one you will still get good amount
for yourself
When feeding only mix your nutes at around half strength your plant will
not use more then that and you will salt up faster and waste the other half
down the drain. The directions are based on perfect conditions, 1000w of
light and recycle system.

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I got my light n the mail. The plants love it!!! There 10 shades greener now and seem 2 b growing a lot better. I had 2 build me a makeshift box lol.

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Some ppl make grow tents out of large moving cardboard boxes and white house paint and it works

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Well @Iva, since you seem to be our resident expert on LEDs…

Is there a lot of electrical knowledge needed to build your own? I know how dangerous things can get when done wrong, so I was curious.

I’m not able to work enough anymore to be able to afford a good lighting system. I could try to bite the bullet and not buy an ounce, but my wife doesn’t like me much when I don’t smoke. Hell, nobody does really.

Maybe prices will go down on smoke for me after this election cycle. Hoping Florida passes it this time.

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when they do I may have to take a day trip and come visit…maybe have you take me to a dispensary or seed shop, lol…you usually have to possess an a valid in state id to be able to buy right?

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@FloridaSon if you can sawder good and buy the right drivers and most importantly power supply and heat sinks , you can build one , it’s videos on YouTube on how to build your own LED light panel of you feel up to the challenge , plus the right led lights and lenses is a plus to Sir , but I think you can do it .

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You dont need any skills and no harder then lego and meccano mixed together
You will need to put a plug on the power supply but you could take it to a repair shop if your not sure the rest is just following instructions.
If you use quick connections for all the led chips you dont even have to solder and the heat sinks can be sourced with all the holes pre drilled and tapped with threads
Doing this will give you a light that uses less power makes less heat and supplies more light then 90% of LEDs you can buy

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the sites to buy the supplies get confusing, lol… from what I gather…multiple controllers are needed to make a high powered light right?? The Ma have me a little confused,…as to how they convert to watts…could not really find much about watts… I was thinking I would need like 5 1000 ma controllers in order to make a good light

I dont mind helping
if you think you have it but are not sure paste and copy the parts and pm it to me or post here and I will check
Or work out the area and how much light you want and I can give you an idea of what you need and where its cheapest atm

Im sure youve posted a million times where to find all the parts lol one more time please
Thank you

KingBrite on Alibaba is where I get my parts

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All that depends what % you run the chips at
3590s run at (Max) 3000ma or .3a so you can give them 3000ma and get the full 100w of light from it but it was get very hot and will not last too long (6 months ish) when you supply less milliamps to the chip it runs at a lower wattage, uses less power but you still keep some of the light you would of had with 3000ma this is where the efficiency comes from. Running more hardware at a lower wattage will cost less to run for the same light. So you could run a 10 foot tent on 250W of power and have more light then a 1000w Gavida but it would cost more in parts to make. Running at 1050ma the life of the chip would be 30 years too and even then they say it will only be 5% or so down.
The sweet spot for light verses cost is the 1400ma range for this chip and the 3070s but if you have the cash 1050 is better for long term setups or growing to sell. My next build will be 3590s in 3500 and I will run them at 750 ish and this will cover a 8 foot by 8 foot area I have. I am also thinking of adding 2 4000 3590s on a switch with 2 of the 3500 3590s for veg this would be ablit like swaping from HPS to Metal Helite for veg

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I would be fine with that. If it’s after a proper cure, we’ll enjoy some of mine as well.

Yeah…all the technicalities of it can be more daunting than Latin sometimes.

I will make sure to check with you once I’m sure of the dimensions I will be going with. I’m hoping to get a 6’x5’ footprint, but I’ll get with you once I know.

Thanks again for the help you bring to the forum…

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