ILGM GDP Auto Grow attempt # 1

no I mean that it takes 2 gallons of liquid to feed them all so I mix twice, once for each gallon, then I must ph each gallon. If I mix in a larger container, say a 5 gallon jug, I can pour two gallons water into the jug, combine (understanding that you must mix them one liquid at a time with the water) and ph once and still have 2 gallons of liquid shaving about half an hour off my time. I was using drops, individual drops, of PH UP to ph up, I needed 190, drops, for the 1st gallon…I found the answer, it’s an AVG of 2 tsp per gallon for 1 pt ph with G.H. PH UP. Which is what ended up being almost to a T the way it worked for my 2nd gallon. It will be a lot easier to mix two gallons at once.

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You needed 190 drops? That’s a LOT of drops!

It was… looking forward to the next one, baseline figures are nice to start with. I think it’s because the dropper was a 1 tsp dropper, gotta figure then 100 drops per tsp? I dunno…I like tsp vs drops tho.

I used a gallon of bottled water, dumped a quarter out into a different jug, filled with a bit of tap water, added nutes, and I only needed 8 drops to get it to 6.5… What water source are you using?

Distilled, my pen is brand new and just calibrated. You just had an issue recently right? Is your pen properly calibrated?

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My pen is calibrated. It’s pretty new too. Received January 7th.

I would recommend adding a bit of tap water to your feeds. 1/4 tap water to Distilled water.

  1. You save some of your distilled.
  2. With very clean water, it is harder to pH the water. When the water is deionized, there is nothing for the electrode to test.
  3. It will raise your pH and add micronutrients

But everyone does things differently.

My issue was because I gave her too much nutes. She’s bounced back

But then again maybe that’s not that many drops. Different nutrient lines, and I add tap water so :man_shrugging:

The tap water here comes outta my filter at 425ppm. It smells more like chlorine then water should. I found an RO source with a 3 for ppm. That will be what I switch too…prolly stay distilled for this grow…see how it goes…kinda spends either way really but whatever, $ is fun tickets am I right?

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$'s are fun tickets indeed! Never thought of it that way lol. Yeah that’s a kinda high ppm but you should look and see if your area uses chlorine or chloramine. If it’s chlorine, you can let the water sit and evaporate the chlorine. You could just use 1/8th per gallon instead too.

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Update- Week 5 day 1
After careful consideration from moderators and regulars postings on the subject I have opted to only flush if readings of runoff get nuts or signs of stress appear. I opted to hybridize the process a lil. On water only days I will over water and allow a large amount of run off to occur. I have a 1 gallon fine mist pump sprayer I use to slowly hydrate the soil during this process. (The kind for spraying insecticide and lawn treatment). I feel it acts the same as a gentle spring rain and likely filters the soil in the pot better then if it were in the ground. (How many hours do you suppose it would have to rain in order to dump a gallon of water on any one plants area.) I could be wrong, only one way to find out. Did that yesterday, seemed to work fine and no plants seem to be suffering from the event. Except for Ivy. Ivy went droopy on the bottom half of her structure, I hoped she would pop back to attn but she didn’t really, her flowers are growing she just didn’t look happy. So my ol lady told me to repot her, either soil to compressed or feelings hurt by being potted in such a small pot. So I grabbed an airport and repotted her again. Her roots had begun to bound in the small pot, after just two weeks! Very well established. I use the existing pot like a mold for repots, fill around them and very gently tamp around, then remove to reveal nice empty void that is near perfect fit for rootball slip in like a glove.


I did moisture probe on pots this morning and everyone has already consumed at least 1/3 of the water from yesterday. None have shown any nute burns after being given full strength last feed so will continue with full strength throughout remainder of grow, unless they tell me otherwise.
Above is family photo after transfer. Front left plants top was farther away from other tops then I liked (didn’t take to being tied down very well) so I used an lst clip and folded it down, love those things. You can’t get the same kinda bend with plant ties, it also seems to have an effect on the branches also, where the bend is gets SUPER fat. As seen in the photo below.


Lastly, I’d like to ask everyone’s opinion- I do not believe Ivy to be the same strain as her sisters. They are GDP auto’s, clearly Indica’s bushy and wide leaves. Ivy however (only one in airpot) is tall, very few leaves which are all slender and Sativa like. What do you think, accidental seed mixup or simply from being in a small pot? Something else? As always lemme know what you guys think, please. And thank you all for the assists.

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I’m not sure about Ivy… Its very odd indeed… Could just be showing her sativa side but that’s a pretty extreme difference for a plant that only has 30% sativa…

From what I’ve seen, Flushing doesn’t really do anything for the plant… Once the nutes are in the plant, you can’t get them out. So +1 on that.

Yes reporting Ivy was a good idea but I’m sure you didn’t need to hear that lol.

Also I like the way your method of watering sounds! Might help make sure the soil soaks up the water better if it flows slowly and smoothly.

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Update week 5 still. Got some pics to share. First up- accidental selfie glasses reflection. I was trying to turn the camera off cuz I was done snapping pics, oops-selfie.
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Family photo, same pic under different lighting. Got a tower fan in finally for sirculation, seems to be doing great job.

Ivy’s top, again with different light and same pic.

It’s got purple! And getting frosty. I have a WiFi microscope, I’ll try and grab some close ups tomorrow or the next day

This is what the other four plants buds all look like at this point. Ivy is slightly ahead of her sisters. If she isn’t GDP she is at least a purple. I feel like her medicine will be special, just something about her.
Last couple are, #1) 24 hours after defoliation, stripped it down so much too, way over 20% each plant…POOF, like it never happened. #2) after I adjusted everyone’s ties and bends as best I could to form a fairly even canopy. It’s a lil sloppy, but looks pretty good I think. I gotta thank the other half of DocnRaq for her hard efforts in training these ladies. She dove right in and has been very devout about working with them every single day. She is an amazing women, and I am, without a doubt, the single luckiest man on this, the 3rd rock from the sun.
9.99 at harbor freight, battery op water transfer pump, needs a hose extension but now I can water faster with more accuracy. Moves about a gallon a min.
Please comment, whatcha see if anything?

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I couldn’t wait, so here’s some micro-shots.

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Everything looking great man! I’m jealous you have a woman that is so in to it! Yes you’re a lucky guy lol.

She’s looking great too man! I love seeing colorful bud like that.

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A microscope pic of some ambrosia I dabbed today.


I think there might be flowers in my weed garden :slight_smile:

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Lookin like some yummy stuff brother!

Hello again all, another update- week 6
Wow, just wow! Love the way my tent changes every day.
Feeding and watering going very well aside from my wonky ph pen. I’ve ordered another nightmare pen to tide me over till I can get a better one, been reading comments on here and elsewhere and have a few choices in mind. You so often get what you pay for, when buying cheap crap. It’s cool only need a couple weeks outta a new one, B4 I can afford the better one. Everyone has been growing and growing…the buds are starting to look purpleish, it’s hard to see with led glasses on but micro pics show very well…looking forward to harvest.


Group shot, removed humidifier today. Plants doing a good job of pushing above 50% (it’s been shut off for two days) and I’ve lowered the max for fan triggers to 45 % to, #1 push lotsa fresh air through the tent, no molds and mildews should be interested in growing here :slight_smile: as the environment sux for them and #2 I read in the guides here that lowered humidity in the flowering stage can promote resin production. Seems like a win win for me and the plants. I’ll lower it even further during the final week.

Not a great micro shot of Ophelia

Some of Ivy’s goodness

Aurora is getting a lil frosty

Hazel with the hidden purple I was talking about.

Melody started to show some pigment also.
More in a few days.

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Quick update- week 6 coming to a close.


I have increased the amount of liquid used in feeding from 1/2 gallon to 3/4 gallon per plant. I did this because of how quickly they consumed the first feed on Monday. They seem to be pleased with this adjustment. I will still be watering on water only days with 1 gallon in an effort to clean the soil without flushing it completely. This approach seems to be working. I have reached another point of confusion in the process. There are so many different answers to the question of when to harvest that I am unable to reconcile an actual solid answer. Because of this I have decided to tag @Covertgrower and ask, as well as @KikiGee and anyone else who wishes to offer their technique. Around this same line of questions I would ask for clarification- when you buy seeds you will find info like this: where it says flowers: 8 weeks, I know this is an avg and not a exact timeline. I don’t understand though does it mean 8 weeks total till harvest from sprout, 8 weeks from the point the plant enters flowering stage, or something else entirely? This feels like the noobiest question I have had yet.

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Exactly this. Also provide up to 10 days for transition to flowering. So count 8 weeks after the pistils are visible. Hope that helps!

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Thank you, puts my harvest a bit further away then I thought, and that makes me sad, but it is comforting to have a solid baseline. They can only get bigger! That makes me happy.

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They look really, really good and zero nute burn on tips. Way to go! I have one Lemon Haze auto that was supposedly an 8 week seedling to harvest not even start flowering until 10 weeks in. But it is the healthiest looking auto I have grown to date.

What you will see now until it is ready is that they will go through a lot of water. I am watering my LH auto in a 7 gal soft pot a good gallon a day right now and half nutes that I dip out of the reservoir. I am using Emerald Harvest nutes. AND what I am noticing now on the Critical Mass photos that are in the hydro set up is that two are ready and one a few days off from harvest and another probably at least a week, in any case, they were going through water like crazy and all of a sudden they have slowed up liquid consumption and that is a good sign, too, that they are ready to harvest.

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