Also an update on the Amherst Diesel. The leaves are turning purple, rust light color. I don’t believe it’s supposed to. Not sure if that’ll help the diagnosis. Thank you
Keep me posted, you’ll definitely need a PPM/EC meter to proceed. Today and tomorrow I’m tied up with funeral services etc. so I’m not going to be around much tonight and tomorrow. Once you confirm you have an PPM meter and you’re ready to proceed we can
Those look nice.
On the others what is the humidity in there. From the looks of the leaves it could be to low.
Appears to be low on humidity and magnesium. Just an opinion. 2 general culprits when you can’t push the lights. Use epsom salt for magnesium not calmag. I don’t think it looks as though you need calcium.
Cool, I appreciate you. I will let you know.
DRsDank
Humidity during veg was on point. I’ve had to push my fans and vent to keep them at around 50 percent humidity during flower. Kpa 1.3 1.4 ish
Hello Lost Girl, I hope you are well. I do have the PPM meter. I believe I’m ready to go. It’ll be interesting trying to catch the runoff but I think I can get it done.
For the flush I I adjusted the pH to 6.5. Am I still not adjusting the pH for the feeding after the flush?
Again thank you for all your help. The ladies are looking very sad this morning. Hopefully we can get this taken care of!
@Lostgirl think this was for you.
@Cory2
Sorry for the late response I was away for a few days and just returned.
On each plant when running the 4 gallons through you want to catch the first two cups of water that runs off. Document and measure the PPM and the pH of the two cups. Then continue flushing.
Also, you want to catch the last two cups of the flush water. Measure the PPM in pH and document it. This runoff will tell you how much you need to feed if any to your plant.
It’s very important that you do it this way.
You’re correct, you ph the flush water to 6.5 and do not pH your feed water.
This can be caused by several factors.
Nutrient imbalance
Cold temperatures
Acidic pH in the soil
Strain genetics
Wow, I really appreciate your help. It was a bit of work. I had to flush quite a bit. PH was on point at 6.3 for 3 plants. One was 5.9. However my PPM were out of control. 2700 was the highest. Wow, between mostly bottom feeding. Then some lazy watering from the top. Only using a gallon of high potency nutrients a couple times. On none feeding days I would only use a gallon and a half with not much, if any runoff using 7 gallon pots. Outside I would have sort of flushed them on just the watering days by putting enough water through them. That’s crazy that it built up so quickly.
My first huge mistake growing inside. I hope it doesn’t affect it a bunch. I know it was a critical time of flowering. The new growth looks good. It seems they are slowly recovering.
When you have an opportunity, I would love to hear about using the other nutrients. I do want a healthy soil.
Thank you again for all the good info
@Cory2 yes I’m sure it was a lot of work. They’re still work left to be done. If you recall I’d asked you to…
1.) catch the first two cups of flush water when flushing and document those numbers for each girl
2.) catch the last two cups of flush water and document those numbers for each girl
3.) document the feed (if you gave them food after the flush) what the intake PPM was and the runoff PPM for each girl
Can you post those numbers for me please?
Also what day did you do this work a flushing?
NOTE
I’m more concerned with Your final runoff numbers after flushing did you feed and the run off numbers from the final feeding. It’s very important to have those numbers as it will dictate what you do next.
Also it’s very important that you understand doing this flush of 4 gallons of water per girl plus your feed water could have (more than likely) depleted your microbial life and we need to replace that on your next feed
The ph is just fine on all 4 girls. The advanced nutrients pH perfect will take care of your pH.
This is something I suggest you strongly get away from. You should feed your plants nutrients every single time you water. The goal is to run off a 1000PPM (+/-150ppm) every single time you feed. You should also feed enough to run off two cups of water.
Bottom feeding has it’s advantages and disadvantages. Once you get an issue the only way to properly get back on track it’s the top feed. I strongly suggest until you get a few grows under your belt to utilize top feeding. You need to get familiar with how to feed to run off and maintain the 1000 PPM runoff. Once you get down the basics you can move on to more experiments.
You absolutely have some of the very best nutrients one can give their plants. Sensi A&B are fantastic base nutrients. Without a doubt you have your microbial life additives perfectly selected. The only thing that I see you’re missing would be a bud enhancement aka (PK boost) additive and B-52 a vitamin supplement that helps nutrient uptake. Other than that I think you got your nutrients covered.
I would order these two products
I’m at work right now. I did want to give you a brief update on what you wrote.
I do have B 52 and big bud. I also have overdrive.
I did come back and feed them how you recommended after the flush. I do have better numbers at home but I would say between 800 and 950 is where all four were at. I can give you some more detailed numbers when I get home. Thank you so much!!
I’m just wondering if quotes like this have anything to do with Agnes’ head size…
Thanks for the reply. I’ll wait for your response when you get off work. Having overdrive, B-52, and big buds is truly all you need with what you already have. I would consider it the perfect nutrient and additive regiment. You just can’t ask for anything better ![]()
Don’t work too hard
Good morning Lost Girl. Things have been crazy at work and with my over ambitious vegetable garden this year. I hope I didn’t bite off more than I can chew. Of course the ladies take their own amount of time and commitment. I need to remember to enjoy it. Which is of course why I started growing.
That being said, after flushing 7 gallon plants, they have been good on water for awhile. It did make it difficult to control humidity. One thing I don’t have that I would like is a dehumidifier.
I believe tomorrow I’m going to be able to water again. I would love some instructions on how to use everything else and water properly.
Also wanted to ask about light height and intensity. I want to get the most out of my light. All I have unfortunately is a lux meter shown in the picture. What do you think the best way to figure out height and itensity for my 800 watts spiderfarmer led? I think I messed up when I got my clones I assume they were already used to high intensity light. I set my light to what the manufacturer suggested. After a few days I showed light burn. I backed off and fixed the problem. I ended up 36 in away on setting two for light intensity. Just wanted to know if you had a better way to get the most out of them?
I started this this morning. Wish I had responded sooner. I only have plant work tomorrow and would love to water properly with your advice. Hope you’re well.
Oh yeah, this is the start of week 6.
Your tap water
It’s very important that you answer this question. What is the PPM of your tap water?
Lighting
Unfortunately, I’m not your person for lighting. I don’t chase par numbers and no nothing about lighting. I was told to buy the best of the best in equipment and that’s what I did. Lighting being the #1 that you never budget. I set my light to the manufacturer recommendation in height and sensitivity (%) and I’ve never had an issue. Hence the fact that I never pursued with lightning numbers. For me, don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. There’s a ton of people here that know the lighting.
Pictures
I haven’t seen the girls pictures in a while if you could take a current picture of what they look like that would help me. A bird’s eye view is always good.
Runoff numbers from last feed
You were going to get back with the exact numbers of each girl from your last feed after the flash. I don’t see those numbers with that said you’d mentioned they were somewhere around 800 PPM so that’s what I’ll have to go with. Keep in mind documenting your intake PPM and your runoff PPM is crucial if you want to grow with any success and regulation. The numbers dictate the overall soil conditions and what the next feed should be or shouldn’t be. Without these numbers it’s all guesswork and you know what happens when we guess in this hobby. ![]()
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Moving forward
Although you only did what’s considered a maintenance flush. (To rid the salts) It’s a good possibility that the microbial life has been compromised during the flesh. So it’s important that we replenish your soil on your next feed. Without having any pictures of the girls I can’t tell visually if they’re lacking anything or their overall health look.
Watering and runoff
In 7 gallon pots with soil I’m assuming each girl would require 2 or 2-1/2 gallons of water to run off 2-3 cups this is the amount of water you want to run off every time. It’s sufficient for collecting runoff numbers and pushes out the older nutrients. Try to achieve this every time.
Under and/or over watering
Although I don’t recall you having an issue with over or underwatering it’s very important that you give your girls a day of dryness to uptake oxygen from the soil. This can only be done with the soil is drier. This can’t be done when you’re constantly watering.
Your current nutrient list
After reviewing your current nutrient list I strongly recommend that you have what’s considered and A Day & B Day feeding schedule. This is because you have a lot of additives that shouldn’t be used together but definitely need used. Doing an A and B day will split up the nutrients additives for a more balanced feeling that won’t burn up your plants.
A&B Day items
Below is a list that breaks down the nutrients and additives that you have and what I suggest that you feed on that day. Also it includes the order in which you add your nutrients and additives to the water
A Day
Water
Silica (if used)
Calmag
Sensi Bloom A
Sensi Bloom B
Overdrive
Tarantula
Piranha
Yucca (if used)
B Day
Water
Silica (if used)
Calmag
Sensi Bloom A
Sensi Bloom B
Big Buds
Voodoo juice
Bud candy
Yucca (if used)
Tomorrow’s feed recommendation
The feed recommendation below is for your very next feed I believe you said tomorrow. Not knowing the exact numbers of your runoff from the last feed but you assumed they were someplace around 7 to 800 PPM below is when I recommend that you feed. Calculations below are mil per gallon
Keep in mind, after this feed we’ll have a better idea what a solid feed will be for future feeds. The ppms on this particular feed can come out extremely high or possibly even low but we have to start somewhere. We can make the adjustments when the next feed after this one.
I suggest 2-1/2 gallons of feed water per 7 gallon pot since I don’t know your PPM of your tap water I’m assuming it’s somewhere around 250 Plus PPM but please let me know what the actual ppms of the time water is because it counts towards your total feed
2-1/2 gallons of Water
3ml per gal Calmag
6ml per gal Sensi A
6ml per gal Sensi B
3ml per gal Overdrive
2ml per gal Big Buds
3ml per gal Voodoo Juice
2ml per gal Tarantula
2ml per gal Piranha
3ml per gal Bud Candy
Makes the above well. Document the total PPM of the feed after mixing. Do not pH adjust proceed to feed your plants. Document the ph and PPM runoff from each plant.
When your done feeding come back here post both your feed numbers and your runoff numbers for each girl tag me in the post and we can proceed from there.
Never ph adjust your water & never ph adjust your feeds ![]()
Came across this thread searching for answers to how to lower the PH of the soil in my outdoor plants. You seem incredibly knowledgeable, would you be able to offer some advice?




