Help with grow issues

Surely u have a sink/shower/bath/toilet in your place?

Yes but I thought that was bad because of what’s in it? I can do that then ph it? You think that would help?

Get the shelf from your oven or fridge, lift up your toilet seat and put the shelf across the toilet, put the plant on the shelf and water my friend, water to your hearts content.

A nice bottle of bleach down the toilet followed by some a few litres of warm water and you’re good, a lot worse goes down toilets :restroom:

I dont know your soil/medium, but i dont get a crazy amount in my run off, not enough to clog a toilet anyway

Im talking about your flush, you gotta do it dont skip on it, i think you’re estimating it to be a bigger job than it is

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Here’s where I’m at. I can’t flush. I appreciate the help with that just not possible for me and my situation. I have two plants the one is bad looking the other not bad! I will continue with this grow the way I have been except for adding anything to plain distilled water.
With that being said what should I do next grow to eliminate these issues?
Should I use distilled water? What soil should I use? Should I use dyna gro nutrients? How do I keep ph in soil right? Can anybody help with these issues? Doesn’t using distilled water lower the ph in soil? Can anybody give me simple solutions for my issues. Plese remember I’m a newbie. What’s the advantage of using tap water versus distilled water? Tap water you don’t know what the ppm isunless you check it,then how do you know how much nutrients in it for feed?

May i ask how come you cant flush? If you’re hiding them i get it but just curious as to why you cant

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You should post a photo of your plant. Many growers are successful without using a PH meter or EC (PPM/TDS) meter. But they’re super helpful with diagnosing problems the plant is showing you.

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I have done flushes for plants that have grown into a fixed Scrog net and so couldn’t be moved. The plants were in fabric pots on elevators in saucers. I used the Fox Farm Sledgehammer product to help, maybe not necessary. I repeatedly removed the flush runoff with a wet/dry vac.

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Advanced nutrients perfect ph. Its done wonders for me so far. Very easy to use and dont have to ph. It come out perfect every time and i use tap water . Thank you @Lostgirl . She told me about it. I. Switching to ff happy frog because the soil i currently use maintains a ph of 7.2 all the time so i been fighting lock out for 2 years not having a clue lol. You will need a tds meter so you can measure ppm so you know where you girls are. First time i checked my ppm it was at 2800 and the plant looked horrible. One thing i learned is less is more. Mixing of nutrients properly is key as well. Dont just dump it all together one at a time mix throughly each part into gallon of water befre adding next. Ph of 4.4 is low from what i heard and can put you in lockout. Its not a science but way more then just adding water and nutrients. Cant really speak on happy frog as its my first go with it. But so far so good. Even my seedlings are twice the size as they normally would be.

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Coco coir and perlite in a 3 gallon grow bags, with Jacks nutrients. Easy peasy. Cocoforcannabis has detail write ups. Anything you don’t understand, come back here and ask. I wouldn’t use soil for indoor grows. To much hassle, for me.


As far as this grow, the folks who answered after me went directly to where I expected to go with my question, I just wasn’t sure I was reading your question correctly.

The runoff from your plant will not hurt plumbing. You can put it in the tub or over the toilet or in a sink… it will be fine. Just run the water from the spigot down the drain to rinse it out if you’re concerned about it.

Incorrect PH will prevent the plant from utilizing the nutrients from the soil. If you don’t do a flush it will be bad for the plant if they live at all. In a bathtub a milk crate like you would find behind a walmart is another good item to use, and no one would be pissed about you using appliance shelves.

You haven’t really explained why you can’t flush, if you share the challenge you’re facing, I’m sure the wise growers on here can offer solutions for you. Everyone responding to you is really trying to help you. We understand about location, legalities size of the containers and weight, we even have someone who took the roof off of a shed for stealth purposes. We understand. You do what you have to do, to make it work, that’s just the way it is. It’s all good.

You can use tap water, just let it sit in a container with an open top and the chlorine will evaporate out in a couple of days.

Measuring your runoff answers all these questions. You said you ordered a pen, so as soon as you get it let us know what the numbers are and we can guide you.

You do need to mix your nutrients before you set PH.

As everyone is trying to tell you, you need to know what’s going in, and what’s coming out. otherwise you’re guessing.

Please don’t get frustrated with the answers you’ve received, the information being provided to you is what’s best for you. Sharing more details and challenges we will be able to take some of the burden off. :slightly_smiling_face: Thes guy’s are friggen genius!

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A lot of great advice here, but if you want something easy, and successful, here is my method I’ve landed on over the years. I got tired of mixing nutrients. This is much easier, and cheaper with outstanding results. No ph required. Use tap water.
When seedling is as wide as the cup, transplant into pot of happy frog mixed with perlite, worm castings, a little blood and bone meal (optional), and fox farm fruit and flower 4-9-3 per the instructions on the package. Then top dress with the fruit and flower after 6 weeks, then once a month after that. I use a little kelp me kelp you during veg. I also use recharge occasionally to keep the microbes healthy.

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I willpost pictures shortly. I need to know. I need to water other plant tomorrow. Give it distilled water with nothing added?





The first one is the one with issues. 2 ppictures

With adding my nutrients, I try to do a good job of mixing them. I use a gallon jug of distilled water. I add my nutrients according to my chart. I will fill the need amount in my eye dropper. After each nutrients that I put in I will pull liquid out of jug with dropper just to try to make sure all is out of it. After I’ve added all my nutrients I will pour that gallon into another gallon jug just to get it to mix will pouring. Then I will pour back in orignal jug to make sure it’s mixed. Then when I check the ph, I will repeat them steps before I recheck ph. I do that for every adjustment. I try to make sure it’s mixed. No the flushing I have to keep my better half happy so lets just say I can’t. Also I don’t understand what I would flush with. Just tap water? Would that introduce chemicals that I don’t want in soil? Not that this helps but for 4 grows all I ever did was add nutrients every time I watered and never checked ph. I didn’t understand it. I think I do now. But those grows were fairly productive. But I felt I could do better. I see some of the pictures I see and I’m jealous. But I know I can only do so much with my skills and what I can do.

Firstly, your plants look a whoooooole lot better than many growers at this stage, even some vets. Second, the yellowing is 100% from the low pH and its hindering of nutrient uptake. Third, and I know it’s been hit a bunch through this topic, but man, the flush. Many times pH issues can be corrected without one, but with a pH that low, and being halfway through flower, there’s not a lot of a way around it. Your plants are at a point in their lives that they will eat everything that they can get, but the low pH is like trying to eat a three course meal through a straw, eventually they’ll be starving.

You can use tap water, which for me, was a much better option growing in soil. With distilled, you should really add either silica or calmag before even mixing your nutes. Important for avoiding pH swings. You can dechlorinate tap water by simply leaving it to sit open for 24+ hours. This allows the chlorine to gas off, and depending the PPM’s of the water itself, is usually totally safe for your plants.

For me, and I use Jack’s nutrients, after I mix a batch in my tap water, the pH lands between 6.4-.5. Perfect for soil. No adjusting, whatsoever. I do adjust my ratio of raw nutes to what I feel like my plants need or what more or less of, though, but that’s a different topic.

Tap water generally has a high enough PPM count, so that it has a readable pH. Distilled water is 0PPM, therefore nothing to give a pH. If your city water has a moderately low PPM (maybe 300 or less), i would mix a gallon of nutrients in it, and just see where your pH lands. This could really help in the future.

Lastly… read, read, read and ask, ask, ask.

I hope some of this helps. Lots of great growers with great advice here!! Good luck and happy growing!

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Thanks to all. I’m still trying to figure this out. I just can’t flush, so I need to keep going. I will try some tap water. I need some empty jugs first. I will check the ppm’s. But for today can I give plain distilled water? It needs watered.

2 questions. First can I still give plain nothing added distilled water? Second how do I prevent this in future?

Also I need to understand how this works. Am I to assume that when I check runoff and the ppm’s are in a good range( less then what 1000 ppm) I can contine as before. But when their higher then that I need to just water? When using tap water. Just ph it? Unless feeding? How do I avoud low ph runoff?

So lets say I do another grow. I start using tap water. My target ppm is say 1200 for nutrients in water. But the tap water alreay reads 300 ppm’s. Do I lower what nutrients I put in?

Add your dosage of one nute, read your ppm, add next nute and read again, continue until youve reached desired ppm. Just make sure to focus your dosages on the npk and not on the additives :ok_hand:

Cool, i get it on the flush, and im positive we can work around it. You mentioned you have to get new empty jugs, half way there.

And not to sound condescending, but do you know what the flush is for? Have you done any reading on it?

Plants look great, congrats

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Maybe we can help…

Cost of water?
Share space with someone who doesn’t approve?
Container to heavy?
Afraid of damage to plumbing?

Why?

BTW, the plants don’t look that bad, get the PH straight and you’ll be rock’n some great bud! :four_leaf_clover: :four_leaf_clover: :love_you_gesture:t4: :love_you_gesture:t4: