Help, my gelato seeds are not sprouting

I would either pop it back in the paper towel for a couple more days on top of something warm, or just plant em and also keep it warm.

I placed 5 more into water. No progress yet. The seeds in the paper towel are the same, no change at all.

One method you can try with the ones in water is just floating them on top until they either sink and simply won’t float, or until they have stupidly long tails. That method has worked for me but all it seems to do is increase having tails pop - doesn’t seem to actually increase survival rate because softening the shell with water is effectively about the same as drowning them. I have perhaps 8 of about 16 plants still alive after using the “soak it til the tail grows” method.

Alternatively you can do a 24 hour soak with a bit of peroxide added and after the 24 hours go straight into a solo cup filled with soil or coco and place the cup on a seedling heat mat with a plastic cover over the top. Heat and humidity are a seed’s best friend. I have more long-term success with this method - 5 of 6 seeds germinated and are growing quite happily now.

So its been nearly 3 days and not 1 seed has popped. The 4 in the paper towel have not changed either and the 2 in the cups have no change. Has anyone tried 11 seeds before and not have a single one germinate?

I think 1 of the seeds has a small root starting to come out. Im keeping it in the papertowel/water untill the root is a bit longer.

What temperature are you germinating them at?

75 to 77 degrees

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Interesting. Best thought at this point is picking up a seedling heat mat - they’re pretty cheap on Amazon. I have this one but literally any will do.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HCY4XQX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_PET6WD3E17VFZX8G8T8J

It kept my soil temps warm enough to get stubborn seeds to germinate when my house got too cool.

I have one coming today. What temp should i have them at?

Mine just has one setting - on. :joy: as far as I know anyhow. I think it’s like 84° or something like that. Warm but not hot.

Edit: the Amazon listing says 104° on the surface of the mat, which I suppose raises the soil temps to between 84 and 90°

So wait, do people put the dixie cups of soil onto the heating mats or can you put moist paper towels in ziplock bags onto the mat?

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That’s my method. I use 18 ounce solo cups with the seed close to the surface. Leaves lots of room for the soil to warm before the heat gets to it. Encourages her that the earth is warm and ready, just like spring.

You can do that too. I might throw a paper plate or something down as a buffer between the surface of the mat and the seed just in case the surface gets too hot. Don’t wanna cooked seed, just a nicely warmed one.

Ok so I put all 20 seeds into water and not a single one came out if the ground. Ilgm sent me replacements, i put 1 into RO water in a box and put that on the top of my led grow light. Temp in the water get to 77 degrees F. and in 36 hours later she cracked open, i put her into moist soil and covered with 1/8 inch soil and covered thst with a Ziplock bag with holes punched into the top and rubber banned onto the solo cup. Put her into my grow tent and 3 days later no growth so i gently dug her up and she looks the same as she was 3 days ago. Soil temp is at 79 degrees F. This makes 21 seeds which have not been able to come out of the soil. Help…

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A lot of youtube guys which do well seem to just put them directly into soil and water to keep it moist. Should i do this?

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I have been putting it in a small plastic container like the ones you get from the store for like macaroni salad (I’ll send a picture if you need) with a folded paper towel. I place it on my upright freezer and cover it with a kitchen towel and it sprouts with a long tail in one to two days. it’s pretty easy and very successful, I’ve thought about getting a warming mat but the freezer does fine. The container will have condensation on the cover overnight. Let me know if you want pictures, I just put seeds in the containers yesterday, I’ll check it tomorrow and probably replant into clear solo cups. I use these 1/2 pound “poke” containers. I have so much I can send it to you if you need!

If they split open while submerged in water couldn’t that drown them?

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I dont know. I assume they can last for a day at a minimum floating/under water but idk

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I use the water method, but all I do is put them in a jar of water until they sink, (old coffee jar) and if they don’t sink after 12 hours give them a nudge down, if they sink, leave them for another 6-8 hours then put them straight in damp soil, they always sprout for me that way brother, as long as the room has high humidity like 70/80% they’ll sprout

It could if left there too long.

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I two days ago tried to put 1 gelato, 1 banana kush, and 1 gold leaf into just ammended double buffered coco, wormcastings and pearlite. The gold leaf just had the tap root come out of the ground so i turned her around and put her back into the soil so i think she will make it but nothing from the other two yet

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