lol the science… im not a botanist…so i wouldn’t have a clue as to what
the science is behind it…,.Just talkin to an old grey beard who had been
using this technique and swears by it… so one time i had about 10 autos
going and tried it with one and turned out great so i have been dong it
since… all i can tell you is to try to find this guy Riddleme from one of
those forums…maybe he can give you some insight…been about 6 years
since i was on those forums…i know mist people follow weird rules and shit
and if this is going against any of those weird rules that people get upset
about…i dont know what to tell you… i use it and it works…most people
talk about growing and the only example they have is some kind of super
grow where everything is regulated down to the very smallest
detail…people even wearing clean suits…scientific i guess…just try it.
thats all i can tell you… submerge clean roots in refreshed water everyday
for about 7 days…dry and smoke… you may think its funny cause you never
read it in the norm of things…but i can tell you its one of those things
that even if its not done by all the scientific growers it still
works…lets go 70 years ago to the middle of southern asia… they started
the pinching of the stalks…they didnt have science behind it all they knew
was that it worked…
i cant tell if you are being a sarcastic dick head so i will just tell you here is the scientific info lol lol
riddleme;4275236 said:
The first word we used for this research was Oxidation, the second word is Fermentation as the fermentation process is what makes “the cure” work so understanding the fermentation process is very important.
Here at RIU there is a thread that includes a cut and paste from a book by Mel and Ed you all know I like Mels book I am not gonna paste it here as it is fairly long and this will be long enough as it is, but this same info appears on most every MJ forum and seems to be the basis for how we all cure today. It seems from my research that this was originally based on how tobaco is cured and we will get into that later, here is the RIU link to this info I advise you go read it then come back,
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There is an old hippie growers myth that says to soak the roots in water for 3 to 10 days before harvest this is not to be confused with the flush that everyone talks about (you all know I don’t flush before harvest, I flush always) the tip/myth is supposed to improve the quality of our smoke. I have to admit that I never paid it much attention until now because I have now proven it is not a myth and has some scientific validation.
What it amounts to is a way to start the cure prior to harvest while the plant is still alive. This is an incredible find as far as I am concerned and I can not wait to try it. what it amounts to is starving the plant of oxygen by drowning it, if in hydro take away the bubbles or spray fill the tank with water and wait, if in a pot either continuously water it (keep it wet/soaked) or stick the pot in a bigger bucket of water.
I need to add some background info as I’m getting ahead of myself, most of you know that if you add sugar and yeast together it ferments into alcohol giving off CO2. The basic definition of Fermentation is the act of breaking down sugars into alcohol and our plants do this internally thru a natural process even while growing. The act of fermentation is a oxidation/reduction process (explained in prior post) just as most plant functions seem to be. Also please be aware that N is needed for proper fermintation to take place.
Here is the info I found verifying that this old hippie myth is real,
found here,
http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about16671.html
and,
found here,
http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-h...hly-V23/Alcoholic-Fermentation-In-Plants.html
one more
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_gu...ion.topicArticleId-23791,articleId-23703.html
I am giving you this info first as it relates to doing something prior to the actual harvest chop. The rest of what I found will bring everything that we find already posted in the harvest forum to a hopefully better understanding.
We as MJ growers have modified/refined the basic knowledge of curing and fermentation of other plants due to the fact that our buds are not leaves and are therefore more subceptable to mold but the basic premise is the same, we don’t add to much heat because it is known to degrade THC. We don’t maintain higher humidity levels to avoid mold. The piling of the plants to induce fermentation is the same concept that makes composting work and for us home growers this is why we use a paper bag or cardboard box because it creates a scaled down compost/fermentation chamber, with this in mind pay great attention to why it is necessary to check often and rotate/rearrange the buds during this part of the process. Also know that this process will also continue once you put your buds into jars.
I also want to point out that while it is easier to trim your buds before drying that leaving the leafs on and hanging the plant allows the leafs to dry formed around the bud to protect it from various things most importantly oxidation which we know degrades the THC. It also allows the buds to dry more slowly which is what we truely want to happen.
My friend Shrubs did this on his second harvest, now I know why.
Please remember that patience is a virtue the slower they dry the better they will be,period. To many growers are in a hurry and as a result speed things up once you read all of the info I am about to present you will see what I am saying is true as I have (yes I have read all of it)
Next I am going to share several MJ specific links about harvesting & curing as more heads are always better than one and the whole of all of them put together creates a pretty solid picture for us to consider as we try to improve our techniques. a couple of them even explain how to add flavors in case anyone wants to experiment a bit.
Here they are in no particular order
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http://www.sky.org/data/grow/c21.html
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I am including the following links because they explain how other plants are cured in various different ways for color and taste this info will not only help us to better understand the various processes but may offer ideas for future experiments that might create a better end product. what you will see is while the techniques vary a bit they are all very similar.
Cacao (chocolate)
http://www.allchocolate.com/understanding/how_chocolate_is_made/tree_to_factory.aspx
Tea
http://www.wtea.com/about-tea_growth.aspx
http://the-leaf.org/issue 2/wp-cont…ion-in-tea-manufacture-single-page-layout.pdf
Tobacco
http://books.google.com/books?id=9c…=fermentation in plants drying curing&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=4s…=fermentation in plants drying curing&f=false
http://chestofbooks.com/health/mate...a-and-Therapeutics/Green-Plant-Tinctures.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=A1…=fermentation in plants drying curing&f=false
lots of other plants
http://bookshop.cabi.org/Uploads/Books/PDF/9781845933562/9781845933562.pdf
We’re almost finished, I found a couple more things that I know will spark your DIY talents for technique tweaking LOL
Here is a homemade drying chamber
here is a homemade fermentation chamber
in the comments section they mention an egg incubator that has adjustable heat and humidity for around $70, here it is
https://www.gqfmfg.com/store/comersus_listOneCategory.asp?idCategory=29#
and that brings us to the end of my research. I spent about 20 hours on all of this but you should be able to follow it all in just 2 or 3 since I was going thru 100’s of pages to find the ones I have posted
I hope that everyone that reads this comes away with a better understanding of how it all works and that as a result we all have better herb to enjoy in the future
Happy Harvesting
No I wasn’t being a sickhead brother…I apologize if you assumed I was. I have no intentions of any hostility on this site or really ever in my normal everyday life.
I’m trying to learn sir…
I wish you the best out of everything you accomplish. I’m no opponent. We are on the same team here. Lol
You kind of really overdone it (meaning yor research). I just was interested in the subject 
I am a super competent 24 year old that has the grind and hustle to learn. Thank you for the great read. I will give myself the hour or so to read this when I’m home from work. Thanks bro I really appreciate everything you have done. As for everyone else I thank for the knowledge I gain. 
@jonathan Thank you so much for posting this.
ok. I didnt do the research… the guy called riddleme from the rollitup forum did the research and posted all the links… he no longer uses the forum just because he would get so much backlash from his postings…people talking about…“thats not how they do it in a grow lab” or “thats not what it says on youtube” or " i took a course in cali and your wrong" kind of shit… and i have had plenty of arguments about it… everyone thinks im stupid for curing my weed this way… but it works like crazy…
let me repost the links because they dont seem to be working…
http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about16671.html
the cliff nots would not load. 404 file not found… it is a really old post.
the other links were pretty much how to slow dry… keep it from getting moldy and all that. but the real trick is the old hippy myth …
@jonathan thanks for all the info brother I already knew about this because @Aquaponic_Dumme had mentioned it which got me started on doing a bunch of Investigation , kind of like you …but it is crazy funny how people don’t tend to believe certain things… I always just try everything no matter what somebody tells me or what I read , but at least now I know why it works thanks my man …
hey man… sorry fr being an *******…
just used to people attacking over shit like this… cause their friend said this or that…or what they read about some experiment done by a grow lab in a college or something…my bad man…
no prob peach…yeah gotta at least test the theory for oneself…
lol I’m not at all offended bro, believe me I think we all have bigger cows to cook…anyways. I am thankful for your lesson. Thanks and I learned a lot of the “water curing” process, if you will. I’m a young new grower and my first grow will be this year. I’m just on here reading and learning from you.
I’m going to give this a try with one of my plants. I’ll take the 3 gallon fabric pot and drop in into a 5 gallon bucket filled with PH’d water. I’ll swap the water out each day for 5 days and then hang em high. I will report back my results.
You’re not worried about drowning her?
Edit:
Nevermind. I just realized, after the post, that you’re fixing to harvest.
Based in the good read above, I think that is the idea. I am basically going to suffocate the plant before I harvest.
Many use a " water" method to cure marijuana
i think it will wok the same. i dont see why i wouldn’t… as long as the plant suffocates like you said…the fermentation process can occur. i always clean off the roots completely and submerge them…but that is just my way…i also like seeing the bare root system…
yeah i have seen it. have yet to try it… i think i will try it with some reggie first before i try it out on the stuff i grow…
Really don’t to much of that way “water” curing.
I am thinking of trying this . Can you correct me if I am wrong . remove plant from dirt rinse off and soak roots for 10 days changing the water everyday. then hang to dry on day 10?
Thanks Ted
yes. that is basically it. Dont go longer than 10… not sure why…there is
not much benefit to leving it longer than 10 days… doesnt “cure”
anymore… and make sure you keep a fan on the plant and keep your humidity
in check when you do it. I ffffed up and just lost my jack herer to bud
rot…my fault… did have enough fan on it.
but yeah that should do it.go to rollitup… and look up riddleme… start
an account if you can and check out the thread there… all the intricate
details about it are in that thread…plus you can see what i could not re
post.