Thanks @yoshi. I watered for the 3rd time. Still low Ph. Even lower. But so far the plants are ok.
I’ve added lime. I’m just keeping an eye out at the moment as I am a observing not real issues at the moment. Here’s the girls. Tomorrow should be the day they start to flower.
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So you pour in what Ph and it came out as to what Ph ? What soil and is there any fertilizers in it at all could, I’m guessing you been flushing it by the fading in the leaves and it’s transitioning to flower you day meaning you have flip the light schedule to 12/12 correct ? Ah how long has this been so far , you may have also gave grow nutrients at full strength and added bloom nutrients also at half or full strength to suddenly and cause sudden issues to take place maybe , I am no expert I can be wrong , cause if I’m wrong than I’m still right cause I was right by being wrong which made me wrong but I was still right you know, huh ahhh nevermind , you might want to get the soil more balanced before initiating flower are the budding foliage will come out funky and weird looking and maybe all twisties and lard looking fan leaves !
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These are auto’s. Today is the day they should flower or close to it. The serrated
leaves showed up about 3 weeks ago
I’ve been putting in water at Ph 6.5. It’s been coming out at around 5.3. I think I have a bad batch of Fox Farm Happy Frog, there has been some conversation. I added some lime. I have not added any nutes really. First two waterings was just water. I never flushed them. My 3rd watering had Cal-mag 2ml and 1ml of each micro, grow and bloom. Last grow I didn’t add any on the 3rd watering in this soil and they starved.
I’m getting ready to go 20/4. I’ve had them at 24 hrs.
I’m keeping an eye on them. Waiting to see what I need to do. @yoshi
Have you tried a slurry test yet just out a couple tablespoons in some water and test it and see what it’s saying as ph and ppm and we might can get it line out more easily from there than just doing this or that . You don’t want to do anything suddenly in organic soil until you get a more better range are you will end up doing to much than needed and causing more problems late in flower . So try a slurry test first to get a more precise reading on what the soil is reading 
, happy Frog usually starts out around 5.5 - 5.8 maybe at least for me it’s has been. Once you get the slurry test done we can try to go from there
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@yoshi Ok let me try the slurry test.
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@TommyD any good results? I’m sure it open your thinking a bit on what you might can do next to adjust it a bit to get them happy again in the right ranges AYE!
@yoshi The distilled water must not have been distilled. Ph was waaaay too high. I have to try again, I borrowed the water
I performed my 4th watering yesterday. Ph was at 5.4 using the first water out of the pot. Subsequent Ph was 5.0 FYI. I took 3 measurements of the runoff.
@TommyD get you a 30 or 40 gallon trash can and catch rain water and try to keep about 5 gallons at all times if you can , if not used the rain water to feed . Good water is very important , if you have a fresh water aquarium , there is the best water .
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@yoshi I have several fish tanks. I normally use it once or twice.
@TommyD WTF? IN A GOOD WAY DUDE !
Check the ph and ppm on that water and than slap yourself , plants grow in fresh tank filtered water Sir lmao 
…hey this cross banana magic and girls out cookies I crossed is my own banana cookies got me laughing 
, but my brother that’s the only water I would be using forever and as you take from the tank just refilled it with tap water , how many plants? If you give them the fish tank water , it has all the natural fish shit in it duh oh yeah and your garden will ridiculously explode ! I wish I find some photos of my ebb flow system I had running from my canister and protein skimmer I had on my in built wall 350 gallon tank , it was a very RAD setup and some of best grows ever .
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@TommyD just used your smart phone smartly and used that Uggle thing it should be some info on there AYE !
@yoshi Well I did a slurry test today. FFHF was 6.5 Ph. Seems normal.
I used tank water today. The Ph was 6.8 and PPM at 717
I’ve been taking 3 runoff tests. The first one is once the runoff starts I collect a sample, then I collect another, then the final runoff that’s left in the collector.
Ph was still low 5.2 on P1 and P2 today.
I guess I must keep an eye out for the Ph and maybe take some action.
I have a few photo’s going too. Same FFHF. I did a test today and the Ph on 2 of them was 6.08 and 5.47 respectively. From the runoff. Hmmm?
I’m still having low ph on runoff, 5.2. Just recently ran into a nute lockout on my girls. Flushing now, and putting in 6.8. Giving each 3g 6 gallons of water
Week 7 and never flushed with ff trio mix, feeling the burn now. Should of followed the guide.
Plants grew fine up until the lockout, but I’m almost positive that’s due to salt.
2 different plant s
@Byronyo wow, look at those? That is nute lock? That’s what I should look for, so far I see nothing like that
My girls are still looking good. I’m keeping an eye out for something ???
I haven’t diagnosed the white spots on the gelato yet, but def a p and k deficiency on the zkittles.
Waiting for someone to chime in on the white spots though, can’t find anything via searches
With ff trio you’re supposed to flush every 3 weeks, and I didn’t do it. It’s catching up to me. I’m guessing it’s lockout on both considering they both started showing issues at the same time
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@TommyD I had similar problems but I did not burn them . I have a very different approach than most on how I manage to raised plants. I feed from the drain pan and maybe water in from the top once a week , which is working pretty simple for me . I stop trying to match the runoff numbers to my watering , but I’ll feed close to the runoff number if that makes any sense 
? Plus I try not to let my medium get to dry except maybe the top layer since I’m running 2 types of organic soil mixed , I try to simulate what an autopot does automatically . Now it takes a little finesing but from the last 2 grows with what I was doing to this Auto grow has been so simple so far this way verse the other way .
I mix up a full gallon and I used a 16 ounce bottle to pour it in , and all I’ve done this grow was keep enough nutrient feeding in the drain pan at all times so it never dries completely and to my surprised it worked effortlessly for me . The other pot I mange to grow it hydro and had no clue I was even doing a hydroponic style grow , Now in veg I only pour in 16 ounces until the plants start growing vertically usually means the roots have made it to the bottom of the pot , once the plants shows vertical growth , I start light feeding from the drain pan and water in my plain water . I think this way allows most of the salts to get filtered out instead of building up in the soil cause the fabric pots acts as a filtration system I believe in a way I think from my comprehension but I’m no expert I’m not a grow pro , but I do know how to grow healthy strong plants and even though I break rules a bit , I still get huge full plants that grows with no defiencies are hardly any tip burning , but I feed the roots from the bottom and I water in the organic life in the soil with seaweed , recharge but I try to measure how long it takes the plants to wick up 16 ounces of water are food and judge it from that but I never let my drain pans get dry doing growing until I’m ready to do my plain watering from the top if that makes sense it’s what I do and it works flawlessly. Here is my first cut 
off the oldest OG kush plant that’s maybe less than 7 days to finish I think but it took almost 9 weeks to start pre-flower , so I’m just glassing it , but I always get a first cut around 5-10 % amber to see it it’s good there are need more time .
The picture plants looks like magnniesium and phosphorus issue from either to much calmag are not enough , and serious ph not being consistent for the right nutrient uptake are the grower did not transition the feeding from veg to bloom , looks like the plant had sudden changes and ph swings and inconsistent ppm to me but I’m no expert , are proclaim to be , I just spend to much time reading and talking with plants.
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Yep, that’s the downside to the FF trio, got me on my 1st and 2nd run. I used FF sledgehammer followed by a feeding of Boomerang. Next feeding of beneficial microbes and 1/2 dose of base nutes. Switched to Jacks after that 
I never used cal-mag unless they ask for it , some strains I’ve grown I got through without using calmag , but normally if I see purple stems to bad , I’ll start adding it , but I don’t just add it every watering like most , cause it can do more harm than good by time you ready to flip to flower and if you have a grow schedule , it just sets everything back another 2 to 3 weeks trying to figure out what’s wrong and it be the calmag over kill seems to get a lot of beginners, I can attest to that too , I hated burning my tips , now I don’t burn them so badly the way I’m adjusted a few things after re-learning all the no no if you don’t have high power lights .
I think if you have good strong power lights to make them eat heavy , it’s really hard to burn them unless you over feeding them are a bad lockout . Most who have powerful lights don’t get a chance to burn them cause they be growing insanely fast .
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What are some easily available microbes I can buy locallly you think?
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