GSC Auto Day 56 Possible Deficiency

[Lostgirl]

@GoochsGanja

I started her with distilled water 6.5 ph for the first week, then I switched to tap water 6.5 ph

Big mistake. Distilled water has a zero (0) ppm this means when you try to adjust the pH the regiment that you’re using (up or down) has nothing to stick to and can whack the pH in the soil pretty bad.

When using distilled water you’re better off just using the water and not ph’ing it.

@GoochsGanja

My tap water is around 350 ppm

This is an extremely high PPM for tap water. However, I can appreciate your wanting to save money. Just keep in mind that you’re waters 350ppm counts towards your total feed number when mixing nutrients.

Note
Since your water has such a high PPM coming straight out of the tap it would be very wise for you to visit your communities water utility website and obtain a recent water report

This will allow you to know what’s in your water both good and bad.

Mixing tap water with calcium magnesium (calmag)
You can rest assure there’s a percentage of calcium magnesium being put into your water system supplying you with Cal mag straight out of the tap.

However we don’t know what that number is. So we can use a conservative ppm number when adding the calcium magnesium (Cal mag)

How to mix Calmag
For now you’re simply watering your plants with a very minimal amount of water so I suggest you mix up at least 1 gal of calmag water

Fill up a gallon of tap water your tap water has calcium magnesium in it but we can add a little more as we don’t know how much is in yours so…

1 gal Tap water= 350ppm
Slowly add a few drops at a time of calmag to your gallon of water until your ppms rise up to 475 ppms. (This means you just added 125ppm of Cal mag to your gallon.

Do not adjust the pH in this water yet
This will be your storage gallon (so to speak)

Example
Let’s say you’re giving your plant 1 liter of calmag water.

1.) Simply pour your 1 liter of calmag water that you’re going to use into a cup.

2.) now you can adjust the pH of your 1 liter of Cal mag water to 6.5 pH

The reason we pH adjust right before feeding is because if you were to premix your calmag water and pH it by the time it was water day the pH would be out of whack.

[Lostgirl]

The mycos products are excellent to utilize during transplant with any seedlings! This really gives the young seedling and advanced beginning when it’s creating the root zone.

[GoochsGanja]

I did not know that adjusting ph needs ppm in order to stick properly, good to know so I don’t make that mistake again. I forgot to ph the distilled water I used to pre-wet the soil for my two new seeds so I guess that was actually beneficial. That sounds like a good way to make the calmag water. I’ve noticed that ph can change over time so I always wait to ph water until I’m about to use it to feed. My soil is still moist today, but I’ll make sure to do that when it is dry next.

[Lostgirl]

For your 2 autoflowers, I would continue to water them with non-ph’ed distilled water until they get about 12 to 14 days above ground

[Lostgirl]

I’m just curious, I know you have the photo in a tent. Did you get a second tent as well or did you build a grow area for your additional plants?

[GoochsGanja]

Someone I live with was growing before me but after seeing my success with my first grow they’re letting me use they’re tent too as long as I can supply them as well. It’s not set up as well, but it is a 4x4 instead of a 2x4 so I could potentially have 4 plants in there someday. There’s no exhaust fans hooked up yet, there’s only 2 2x2 lights in there, and the only way to control humidity is with a small desktop humidifier. I’m planning on upgrading it as I can, getting a bigger light that can cover the whole tent and making the airflow better at some point. Right now I’m just trying to work with what I have, even though it is suboptimal. The main thing I’m struggling with in there is the lights are non-dimmable, so I have to have them really high up to not burn the seedlings, but that is also causing quite a bit of stretching. I’m just trying to find a middle ground, because some people online say 2 ft away, and some say all the way up when they’re seedlings. One of my seedlings never made it out of her shell and broke off inside when I tried to manually remove it after a few days, so I sadly had to start germinating a new one, which will also be an auto.

[GoochsGanja]

I topped my plant 3 days ago above the third set of nodes

Then today I added a few training stakes to level out the second nodes and move the large fan leaves out of the way of the lowest nodes

I ended up not giving any calmag 2 waterings ago because the color of the leaves returned to normal on its own. Last time I did 2 liters of tap water, and now today I did 3 liters with half a teaspoon of calmag. There was a little bit of runoff this time so I measured it at 6.4ph and 1150ppm. That seems to be in a good zone, and doesn’t seem like I need any added nutes yet.

[Lostgirl]

Congratulations on your new tent. Sometimes you just got to get a little bit until you work your way up with the supplies that you need. I always say the most important thing is the light. Shitty light = shitty grow.

Catching a little bit of runoff is more than likely inaccurate numbers. Those girls are old enough to get full runoff. You’re only one or two waterings away from having to start feeding them.

Good job on topping the girls and bravo for the LST. It’ll pay off in the end

[GoochsGanja]

I agree about getting a better light first, that is going to be my top priority, along with getting some of those additional amendments for the soil.

This was yesterday when I did some defoliating and adjusted training.

Now today she’s filling back in quick.

Node development is looking strong, I’m planning on removing all subnodes until I train it up taller and thicker. I’m trying to find a balance between cutting off too much too fast causing stunting and leaving branches on too long wasting growth on areas that get removed. I feel like I’ve been keeping the balance better this time around.

I haven’t watered since 4 days ago, the soil is starting to dry out but won’t be ready for next watering until tomorrow. How much water should I give in a 5 gallon pot with this plant size for first runoff?

[Lostgirl]

I always say 3 gallon pots use 1-1/2 gallons.

With 5 gallon pots use 2-gallons always gives sufficient runoff.

I would venture to say using 2 gallons on each girl with this watering will give you the runoff numbers that you’ll need to start feeding.

The girls look great

Also remember, when using advanced nutrients you never adjust the pH

[GoochsGanja]

I waited until the soil was nice and dry today and then I watered with the 2 gallons to get the full runoff numbers. Water in was 2 gallons at 380ppm and 6.5ph. Water out was 3.5 liters/ a little over 7/8 of a gallon at 1490ppm and 5.95ph. Plant looks like this right now and is on day 25.

[Flatnut]

@Lostgirl

I always say 3 gallon pots use 1-1/2 gallons.

With 5 gallon pots use 2-gallons always gives sufficient runoff.

This is exactly the amount of water I use to achieve my runoff.

[GoochsGanja]

Update on the plant, I adjusted training 3 days ago

I watered today with 1.5 gallons with a little cal-mag added in, since the new growth is looking a little lighter. 27% runoff, with 1500ppm and 6.1ph. She is growing pretty vigorously so I’m going to continue to train for a few more weeks before I flip the lights.

[kaptain3d]

Beautiful

[Lostgirl]

You’ve come a long way. The perfect student.

Cut back on your feed and try to get them ppms around 900 on the runoff.

1500 is slightly hot yet I don’t even see burnt tips indicating their satisfied. (I think you have some pigs)

You’re doing a fine job continue the good work. BTW, That ain’t training, You laid down the torture on them girls and they seem to love it.

Very excited for the next couple of months!

[GoochsGanja]

I have some exciting new updates for my grow setup. I cleared out some furniture and was able to move my second tent to be in the basement next to my original one. I also have a smart humidifier and new 4x4 dimmable led light that just came in for the second tent. My last watering on my oldest plant at 43 days old, the OG Kush, gave a runoff of 950 ppm, so I’m finally going to start up nutes next time. I’ve been continuing to train pretty aggressively since she’s responding well to it and I’m planning on still vegging for another couple weeks atleast so she has some time to veg with the added support of the nutes.

I’ve topped both of my autos and they are each responding well. The older one, a 25 day old Purple Lemonade, was stunted early on due to suboptimal conditions so it is having some weird mutations, but is recovering well. One of the nodes split into two and it started to flower early so I’m just going to try my best to salvage what I can from it and hopefully learn something along the way.

The youngest one is a Northern Lights that is 15 days old and seems to be growing completely normal. I topped it yesterday, so it should start to take off from here.

[GoochsGanja]

I got my new light put up. It’s the Vivosun VS4000. I’m trying it at 50% 24 in. away with 68rh. If anyone has experience with this light and has any height or power level recommendations that would be nice, but my game plan rn is to increase it to 75 later in veg and 100 in flower if all is going well.

[Lostgirl]

You’re just moving right along. Purple lemonade (I’m assuming is 4:20 fast buds) when it grows up generally takes the shape of a sativa plant. Not a very big yielder but the weed was one of my all-time favorites.

Congratulations on your new growth space

[GoochsGanja]

All of the genetics I’m currently running are from RoyalQueenSeeds. I’m thinking about trying some local genetics next time since stores have started selling them in my state now.

[GoochsGanja]

I hope everyone is having a happy holidays! I wanted to share some updates on my growing journey. I’ve been experimenting with cloning, and it’s been going really well. I took 6 clones off of my OG Kush plant 18 days ago, and they all have taken root now! I wasn’t expecting to get nearly this many to take, so now I’m trying to figure out what to do with them all. I’m for sure keeping at least two, but I’m going to see if my uncle that grows too would want to take some. Otherwise I might try running some in smaller pots to be able to fit more.

My Purple Lemonade that’s flowering is coming along nicely.

The Northern Lights is still vegging so I’m continuing to train it. It’s stem is already thicker than the other one despite being 10 days younger so I’m excited for this one.

I’ve also been continuing my efforts in training my OG Kush into a monster. This morning I did some defoliation after it grew back from my last training session. All the fan leaves below the canopy were getting shaded, so I took them off and now you can really see the length of the branches. There’s still plenty of room for it to grow though, I measured it today at 16” from top of soil, 25” from bottom of pot to top.

She’s looking like a happy mother, and I’m feeling happy to be a plant grandpa for the first time.