Getting the cart back behind the horse!

I’m familiar but don’t know the NPK off top of my head. Anyway, you’re probably gonna need to amend top dresses. The teas are more about the micro heard than the nutrition. Most dry organics aren’t in soluble forms. Usually there is a percent of available N, but I’m not sure of your methods or intentions.

This is a copy and paste of the ingredients in the tomato tone and a portion of the nitrogen is immediately available while the rest of the nitrogen is slow release:

Espoma Organic Tomato-tone (3-4-6) is made from a blend of natural and organic ingredients, beneficial microbes, and humic acids. [1, 2]

Organic Derived Ingredients

  • Feather Meal
  • Poultry Manure
  • Bone Meal
  • Alfalfa Meal
  • Greensand
  • Sulfate of Potash
  • Sulfate of Potash Magnesia [1]

Guaranteed Analysis (Nutrients)

  • Total Nitrogen (N): 3.0% (including slow-release and water-soluble components)
  • Available Phosphate (P₂O₅): 4.0%
  • Soluble Potash (K₂O): 6.0%
  • Calcium (Ca): 8.0%
  • Magnesium (Mg): 0.9%
  • Sulfur (S): 2.5% [1]

Beneficial Microbes & Additives

  • Contains 6,000,000 CFU/g of beneficial bacteria including various Bacillus and Paenibacillus species.
  • Humic Acids: 1% derived from Leonardite.

My hopes for this grow are hands off as much as possible and to have a great grow! LOL, not askin to much huh!


Looks like typical low N .9%
Mix of instant pot ash (K) gonna need re applications for sure towards wk5

by the same token, while I want to use dry ferts I am not opposed to liquid. I still have plenty of the Advanced Nutrients regimen left over from last grow.

Don’t mix them. Leads to trouble if overdone. Numbers won’t read true, because the meter can’t distinguish between available and unavailable

Are you referring to the tones fertilizer?

Was referring to mixing salt and dry organics. Meter ppm would read 3-4K range and salt runoff reads would be useless

Thanks for the tag @Caligurl , I’ll be sure to tag along as the crop of the cream seems to be here too! I try to not miss a chance to learn from you guys..

And for Newbiedude, don’t throw away that ph pen just yet, it’s good to know the pH even if you’re going organic… I water with rain water and noticed that my barrels have a range between 6,5 and 8 depending on which roof the water collects… wonky ph will cause issues in organics too!

I’m dense so bear with me, are you talking about salts in the soil from last grow or is the slow release nitrogen in the tomato tone salt?

10-4 on the ph tester. I’m on well water and the natural ph is 5.8

The last time I remember checking the ppm in my well water would not register much over 50=55 ppm

This is what I’ve been talking about.

Ok, maybe I asked the question the wrong way, what am I not supposed to mix?

Ok, igot you. Don’t mix liquid and dry ferts. My intentions were not to use any liquid ferts. Just dry

Don’t mix salts (Advanced Nutrients) with dry organics (non-salts) Salts and organics mix if you know how, but best practice is don’t mix.

My thoughts on this organic grow was using the things to make the soil active and healthy and then just the dry fert once in a while.

Thanks much budbrother! I think we were on the same page anyway, I got lost in the weed! See the pun there​:rofl::rofl::rofl::angry:. Actually sitting in the deer stand so my attention has been divided​:man_shrugging:. I was hoping you weren’t going to tell me not to use the tomato tone.

Its a 3/4/6 Im pretty sure brother.

@Budbrother sorry for the confusion yesterday evening. I didn’t realize you were calling the Advanced Nutrients salts and that’s where the communications gap happened.