Starting my third grow using FF trio. I am using a Cal Mag supplement by Meigs, and Recharge. I have been growing in Fox Farms Ocean soil and not adding any nutrients until week 4. I cut all dosages by half.
Using 3 gallon fabric pots, going to try a couple in 5 gallon next. Last grow I got 3.8 ounces from 5 gorilla glue auto of buds. Got the watering down and have been feeding 2 times a week with the trio and recharge once a week. Just got the recharge 4 weeks ago. I ph my water and let it set of a good day, I not measuring any PPM at this point. Looking to start figuring that out on this grow.
Question(s). I am not using Fox Farm’s Open Sesame, Cha Ching, or Beastie Bloomz. Do these nutrients contribute that much and are they worth it ?
I wasn’t too concerned about all organic growing when I started, however I am leaning strongly that way now and would like to go that way on next grow after this.
They are helpful in adding extra amounts of P and K, but they are not necessary. If you use them be sure to monitor runoff PPMs so you are not nuking your plants with P and K.
I used bottled liquid nutrients for my first few years. They work well in small amounts. Less = more. Make sure to ph your nutrient solution to avoid lock out.A final flush is important when using synthetic nutes.
Just an opinion.
Not for the extra money invested. You already are giving p and k. If you give them a little extra big bloom and tiger bloom there is your extra p and k throw in some mycros and unsulfered molasses your good. Keep up the cal mag
I’ve ran it both ways with no noticeable difference. Now if your one of those I got 1 extra trichome guys. What all I spent was 50 dollars to get an extra 1.
Flushing? You hear so much about over and under watering and all the other things , mold, bugs gettin busted if your illegal and then you drown them with ten gallons of water before harvest . I got 5 blue cheese autos close to yellowing looking good. I am running my lights 24/7 basement too cool no vent running holds steady 81degrees and humidity 42%. Haven’t properly flushed till last night. I slightly burned the blue cheese autos I increased the nutrient level to find the burn spot. I found it . I got HLG lighting was recommended on this forum to get and they are bad ass. Got a light meter not using but know how to now. I am not PPM either getting a meter ?
Point is, I am impressed with how resilient these plants are. More so the technology and products so readily available. I couldn’t risk the cost of smoking weed for the last 43 years and I never liked cocaine, I just liked the way it smelled. I was paying $400 an oz. it is good stuff. All the stuff I am doing wrong is close to what I was buying. Closer than I imagined. I got 11 more blue cheese soaking in water now and can’t wait to fine tune these in.
Thanks for all the help.
Inclined to agree. I aquired BB, OS, and CC from a friend, so I used it. I saw no significant improvement for two grows. Free…ok (with lots of great advise in this forum on the product). Cost effective…no appreciatable difference.
Are cha Ching/beastie bloomz/open sesame not considered mycros? I thought that’s what they were, added microbes. What are they then? Also if not, what are some good products to use to add microbes to the soil for top dressing during flower? I saw you said unfiltered molasses (like blackstrap), what else can be used? I’m looking to top dress for microbes and am trying to figure out what to use. Or should I just get like a compost tea? I see so many suggestions on here and it’s like dude if I used everything everyone says I would be buying 1,000 different things… it’s really overwhelming.
Pretty much anyone who is not doing a 100% organic grow is going to need to flush at least 2 weeks prior to harvest in order to rinse out excess salt build up/allow the plant to start using any remaining stored nutrients in the plant… this also allows for better taste/quality of bud… also, as long as your plant has developed a sufficient root system, drowning your plant has nothing to do with the amount of water you give it but everything to do with how often you water. You can give your plant 10 gallons of water, and as long as you have proper drainage, it’s going to affect it the same way 2 gallons would. It only drinks what it needs, the rest runs out. You won’t drown your plant just by giving it a lot of water at one time. You drown your plant by watering it too often.
Don’t know about mycros but cha ching is 9-50-10 and beastie bloomz is 0-50-30. So cha ching is very nitrogen then high phosphorus and some potasium. I get that from the trio . Beastie blooms is high phosphorus and high potasium which I do give one strong dose of when I flip to 12 12 exept I use flower fuel same thing as beastie. That little jar I have of that will last a lifetime only mixing it 1/4 teaspoon to a gallon once a grow. Then mycros I use trifecta and molasses .
Best thing I did - was go organic with Gaia Green took all that out of the Fox Farm guessing game out of the equation.
Simply add water every 4 weeks top dress and water in. Reuse the soil over and over. MeEasy has a great organic forum here and will answer any and every question you may have.
Can you use/reuse happy frog soil as long as you top dress with Gaia the entire grow? And is feeding nutrients necessary if using Gaia as a top coat or will extra NPK nutes burn your plants?
Yes you can use the same soil over and over. Called cooking your soil by adding Gaia Green mixed in the soil and keep moist for 4-6 weeks get the organic living going in soil. You don’t water to run off or your watering the nutrients out but keep soil damp.
Attached photo northern lights auto in 5 gallon. I just water with Recharge once a week or so.
Hey no expert here but for me the way to go. Check out MeEasy - super cool Dude walk you thru everything answers every question.
I can’t help myself I have to jump in on this one. Molasses does not add microbes. It is food for microbes already present in the soil. Recharge and Tribus are both products that are designed to add beneficial microbes to your soil. Also, if you go to the fox farm website, the info on each of the products is available if you’re wondering.
. I got 5 blue cheese autos close to yellowing looking good. I am running my lights 24/7 basement too cool no vent running holds steady 81degrees and humidity 42%. Haven’t properly flushed till last night. I slightly burned the blue cheese autos I increased the nutrient level to find the burn spot. I found it 
. I got HLG lighting was recommended on this forum to get and they are bad ass. Got a light meter not using but know how to now. I am not PPM either getting a meter ?