Are you monitoring the run off PH and PPMs as well as the input of these 2? The issue is in the medium and most likely
cause is PH. Too early for that kind of fade or yellowing
That and the quick honestly uptakes too slowly I felt like. With a drench I read you’d water about half the volume of the container and that would be 2-3 days of resources for the plant with the last 12 ish hours for oxygen uptake. My fastest feeding plants on the other hand were feeding about 1 base or 1 gallon for a 5 gallon pot every day. Just didn’t feel like enough and I feel like the mangrove lower soil level theory they claim only makes sense if any portion of the roots ever sat in water constantly like that.
So I didn’t get the meter until recently and didn’t want to change my water schedule with the bases that I’m not planning to use next grow. The way they water from the base and limited dry cycle makes runoff ppm a nightmare even without the need to reset the wicks and everything underneath. I’ve been just feeding reduced levels of the original 3 part, cal mag and Sensizym. I’m using the pH perfect and at about 5 min that reads around 6.5 with my well water depending on day and groundwater pH. Not sure if that adjusts further but soil sits right around 6.2. ppm was around 1500 and before cutting the feed by 1/3, but this one already had salt buildup from too much Cal Mag following a Cal deficiency. Thought some of the end of life signs were late stage N deficiency but probably should have cut nutes. Going to finish out with Sensizym and Flawless finish to try and slow it if I can but wasn’t sure if I should emergency chop her down. Honestly never knew and still fully understanding that they have a fall cycle.
Understood, I use a bottom wicking system as well. You could do a slurry test on the medium to check the PH and PPMs. It’s actually more accurate than run off testing. What week of flower, if you’re around 8 weeks a good water flush and let it ride maybe an option
Dya know i wouldnt be suprised if its salt lock out, you said you could SEE the salt? I had a thread going and my final note on it was to do with the salt issues of AN and that i think liberal run off for most if not all feeds is crucial. So a wicking system probably fecks with that entirely no?
Ph shouldnt be a problem with the 3 part.
And just to add - your buds are great for havig skipped on most if not all the additives for the 3 part
I’ve read about the slurry test but was worried I’d mess up the roots. I’m super green to green thumb anything and used to kill everything I grew until the last few years including many a sad succulent. I did buy the Apera pH soil probe which I’ve been using to measure pH, but not sure it’s perfectly accurate given the variables. Feels fairly close to what’s going on though but a little more acidic which makes sense for the soil type I think? My non pH water varies from 7.5 -7.7 but also just added a RO with remineralization filter that I’ll be sourcing from and that’s supposed to sit at 7 for easy pH adjustment. I’ve started trying to pH the water going in but have struggled with it not stabilizing and a few drops seems to do a little but twice the amount does a crazy change.
Oh and I’m in 8th week of flower and week 11 which is the seed companies claimed longest time but I know that’s not always exact. Thanks again for all the help!
To quote @Lostgirl you definitely shouldnt be phing your water using 3 part
Yeah I can see the salts coming through her bag. It’s been that way though without any real issues and I started running Sensizym early this week to start clearing everything out. I didn’t realize flawless finish broke up salts too though and hit it with a 1 ml/L dose around 5:30/6 ish. I think Sensizym is definitely needed for the wicks based on this plant at least. I will say I went lighter Cal Mag on the rest though and not seeing the salts on the bag at all. I want to switch Cal Mag anyways too because not a fan of all the extra N in the Sensi extra stuff. I like the look of the organic version but having a hard time finding it with low shipping and appropriate volume.
Yeah that was only for my plain water feeds between feeds. The pH perfect stuff seems to always get it in range.
I would flush the medium using at least 2 times in water as the vessel size. Let it go a week through the dry cycle and feed 1/3 strength on week 9 and water feed week 10 and 11
I like that you name them
Oh wow, I didn’t think they’d have that long left just based on the"expected" harvest timelines posted by the seed companies, but also knew that was all likely BS. Hairs have been changing to red pretty quick though so I assumed at most a few days to a week or I’d miss the window. The two late bloomers are about a week off in flower and I was thinking they’d be at peak by end of next week judging on cloudy trichomes and the small amount of amber I was maybe seeing at the tops of buds but still clear on sugar leaves and still a lot of white hairs on the lower portion of buds. Man patience is a virtue I absolutely never learned.
I’ll have to pull her into the shower for that probably. She’s in a 5 gal pot, so you would do a 10 gallon flush? Do you think I could cut the amount using Sensizym and Flawless Finish? Is 7.0 tap too high? Sorry, always a man of many questions. I just bought 5 gallon buckets for the bud wash at the end and have some pH down I can use if so.
Trichomes will determine the harvest week. Breeder times are recommendations at best. It may only take 10 weeks, other than a few fast flowering strains that I harvested at 8-9 weeks most plants that I grow are ready around week 10 and up to week 12
Good to know! I’m about 10 weeks from sprout but the flower date gets a little iffy for me with the autos. I think they’re about 7 and 6 weeks into flower though between the two flowering times I had. The two that went into early flower have pretty much all red pistols which was the other thing that had me watching. I’ll give her a good flush though and keep them riding until I’m seeing more Amber and really no clear in the later flowering 2.
Here’s an update of the trichomes today. Definitely think I’m getting close, but getting better at telling the difference between cloudy and clear now that there are more cloudy in the mix. Per always glad I checked in here first because I would have pulled them way early.
Cia
Bertha
Daisy
Just a few days since the last post, but I think they’re moving quick. Still seeing a little clear on the least ripe buds of the least ripe plants, but also interested in a mix of ripeness to see what I like. I usually like having something to get me going in the morning and something to put me down at night. I think the ripest plant is right inside the window and it was about a week apart from the others. I am having a family member with experience trimming help on the trim and they’re only available on the weekends. I’m thinking this Sunday is likely going to be the one, but would love to hear everyone’s thoughts. Trying to give the brother in law a heads up in advance if I can.
Bertha
Cia
Daisy
So I think I’m maybe a week or two of ripening past where your photos showed. I’ve been in fall leaf change for a little over a week I think. I’ve seen a first leaf fall on two plants two and I’m starting to lose some sugar leaves. I definitely over stressed them on light and I’m keeping it pretty dry so I don’t think it’s a huge issue but definitely feels like they want to be picked soon.
@MedLifeCrisis Tx for the insight. I agree, I should be harvesting in a week or two. Perfect timing since my PPM of all of the plants is high. Now that I am starting to flush tomorrow, I don’t have to worry about them getting too hungry if I have to wait a third week before harvesting.
This is what is great about this forum. We can share pictures and get quick access to sound and informed responses. Thanks for taking your time to compare our pics.