It makes perfect sense. I didn’t know LED would be different from others either. So happy to be able to dial in a little. So much to learn, right?
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Indeed!! Do you use the led setting? I was still told that the direct sunlight option was the most accurate after testing… but obviously that was still new then maybe it’s more updated? Just curious… yes so much to learn but I’ve never been so excited about learning lol… and it’s not just growing my MJ… all of this new knowledge from soil light and everything in between!! I never could keep a plant alive in my house for a day 
now I’ve got enough vegetable seeds and sprouts for a a large greenhouse (that I don’t have lol)
Absolutely. I wouldn’t do official light testing with the app. But the app works well enough for what we need it for.
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I didn’t have to pay for the sunlight/daylight setting on my iPhone either. Strange.
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You may have downloaded it before they started charging for it. I didn’t have to either. I did have to pay for LED which was a waste of money.
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Any smart phone can run Photone as far as I understand it - at least any Android or iPhone.
So a $150 Android from Cricket would do fine.
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If you truly don’t already have some kind of smart device (a kindle, an iPad, a tablet for video watching, a smartphone), then who knows. I would probably borrow a friend’s phone or other Android/Apple device before I sprung for an Apogee. But that’s because I’m cheap - the things I have are a result of necessity (my job requires it of me), or it was a gift.
Edit: I want to say I realize this post sounded snarky and I didn’t intend it that way at all. I worked as a customer service person for a big cell phone company for a very long time - I have encountered a multitude of people who either can’t have or simply don’t want smartphones. I respect and value that decision, and don’t want anyone to think I’m being derisive.
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Well then go for it! 
Only reason anyone needs.
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@BobbyDigital I just did a comparison today using the LED full spec and the Direct sunlight setting and I read 500-ish on LED and 540 on Direct Sunlight… Just wondered if you recall if the LED full spec was slightly lower then direct sunlight during your comparison? I know it was like a year ago just wondering… My comparison was done on a ES 300 at 48" above soil with setting about 70%.
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When I tested the sunlight setting was the closest reading to the apogee. Light spectrum is light spectrum. I think the extras are just made for money. Which is likely why they started charging for sun spectrum
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No intrusions here!! I love good conversation!! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… that’s one thing I love about this place is so many views and great ways to look at things! Ps my inner nerd has a list of all the meters I don’t have but absolutely must need eventually!!
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Thanks for the recon!! @BobbyDigital and for your information as well!! So $3 for the sunlight done and done brb
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If ur kindle has a playstore search photone. If not look on YouTube and search how to get Android playstore on Amazon Kindle fire or whatever. It’s a few steps to do but u can download the app and use it but seriously @Graysin my neighbor was one of the guys til last year about he finally got a iPhone he has had a flip phone for ever. Lol. Hated texting but now he loves it lol. But seriously a flip phone. It took him being sleep one day on the couch and his phone be in his shirt pocket and rang scared the shit out of him so he woke up grabbed it to answer well opened it so quick he snapped it in 2 pieces. Was gonna get another flipper lol. I laughed at him and hurt his feeling. Told him get a smart phone. Well he ended up with an I phone not a smart phone. Lol. iPhones suck ass by the way. They r stupid have to pay for so much shit u get for free with android and the no back button and all just gets me all FD up
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I don’t think the paper white does. I’m not entirely sure but my dad has one and uses it exclusively for reading books, unlike a lot of the kindles I’ve seen that are backlit and designed more like pocket sized tablets that just happen to be able to be digital books, too.
I’m an Apple for my portables and Windows for my computers kind of person. I worked as technical support entirely too long to use androids for anything that holds my personal information.
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I totally missed the point. Whoops
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I didn’t get the “snarky”. Plenty of people choose to live as much electronic free as possible. I’m just not one of them – I’m a tech addict. But, the pocketbook often also has different ideas.
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My iPhone is not connected to any service… I run it solely off WiFi… it’s my pocket computer that I can take anywhere and use very simply… my cellphone is just that a phone to call and rarely text lol… would use a flip for that one if they had it 
@Mark0427 lol and @Graysin I’m with you on the windows for my computer and Apple for the mobile!! I also worked in cellular for a while
I should note that I didn’t really have any cost involved getting my iPhone… it was an old one no longer used so… there’s that also 
and that I can check my inkbird monitors, my WiFi cam, and all my grow stuff from this iPhone.
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I was concerned that’s how I was coming across, not trying to insinuate that was how I saw your post. Text is so strange like that.
The only other apps I really use for growing related stuff is “Grow With Jane” as a journal/log with specific details I may want but that the forum probably doesn’t care about. Also Govee - for the Bluetooth/wifi enabled hygrometers. And AC Infinity’s app for the smart controller for fan speed etc.
There’s a paid app called Grow Doc - It allegedly does plant diagnostics from photos of the plant damage. I never used it because monthly subscription services annoy me, but it maybe helpful for beginners.
Edit: also echoing that yes, any smart device with wifi counts as “connected” for the purpose of apps, so just a wifi connection will do.
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Well finally have a sour d popping out!! Meet Shaquisha… I got to stop letting the kids name them still has part of the shell on though 
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@Twelve1 @Fiz @Khaos850 heres my little slice of heaven… stop by 
Ok so here’s today’s update… went down to just refill the humi and they were pretty dry so I decided to do my first feed to run off… I felt like I was drowning them but I took some data and hopefully someone can help me understand it
I had 4 different containers for water… now I see why 5 gal buckets are used… I will figure a better system for sure… checked ph and tds on all incoming
Gal 1 - 6.39ph
692
1384
Gal 2 - 6.36ph
336
673
Gal 3 - 6.48ph
1157
2314
Gal 4 -6.47ph
265
531
So as you can see I’m all over the map it looked like… at any rate the run off I did collect was as follows in order of feeding
Cheech - about 1 1/2 gal not quite
Ph-? Forgot to write it down I guess
7804
Ec is ———— for all?
Gg
5.99ph
7830
Chong
5.73ph
7839
Also I downloaded the Photone app on an android for free 
and my numbers said ranged from 88 - 190?? Am I way to low? I feel like all these numbers are just stressing me out tonight oh and my humidity alarm went off too low this morning forgot the humidifier last night and then went off to high after i refilled and set for the night… … so I put up some gnomes
Cheech
Gg
Chong
Group photo
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