I’ve never done it before, too ( with any level of attention or success anyways)… So even more reason. Thx
Anyone ever seen this?
I am noticing a reddish discoloration… almost a coating but not like a mold or fungus ( I think) on new growth on some of the plants.
I recall seeing this at the start of the (presumed) pH balance issues. Along with it, I see what I believe to be intervenal cellular damage that causes a wrinkling effect on the fan leaves, as well as deformities like half-formed leaves or missing leaf fingers.
Result of pH imbalance or something else? No pests and I am pretty good about keeping the pots properly watered. There’s a great chance most of them are either root bound or approaching it… But that should be remedied today ( as well as the pH issues with the supersoil mix I hope)
Here are a few more photos. (The last is an old fan leaves from the first time I dealt with this issue - the white stuff is DE)
I’d also like to add that temps have been pretty consistently good, though it did dip down into the mid 40s last night…
On further investigation, it appears that the discoloration is in exactly the intervenal area that I am seeing damage. I guess it’s the initial burn ( for lack of a better word) that leads to the deformations.
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I don’t know what that is. Let’s tag in some more knowledgable people.
@Myfriendis410 @Big123 @WickedAle @blackthumbbetty @MattyBear
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@WickedAle even the wrinkles and the side turn?
The white is DE
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Diatomaceous earth should just be sprinkled on the ground around the plant not sprayed on it, at least in my humble opinion, I never use it in that manner.
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I have used it in the past and present as a liquid solution without issue, but maybe that is his problem.
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his 4th photo looks like something else, hardly any DE on that leaf.
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Is his plant root bound too?
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My first inclination is that you are dealing with a pest issue and that’s the main cause for your leaves looking like that. Once they invade your plant they can spread diseases and all sorts of other issues. I only spray my outdoor plants with Captain Jacks Dead Bug and then a couple days later with a mixture of H202 and water at 50/50 ratio. Repeat weekly if needed.
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@MattyBear… just finished checking (again… Did it early on when I saw this issue) with a 100x scope on new growth with the red “necrosis”… No critters… At least I didn’t see anything moving topside or under.
@WickedAle… DE was applied weeks ago when I spotted aphids. I might have been heavy handed but I saw no I’ll effects then. I haven’t reapplied since and am not spraying with anything else.
My feeling is ph since I’ve been dealing with it for what feels like forever. I had an acidic Spike I dealt with a week or so ago, and got them all in range… Maybe this is lingering effects? I wouldn’t think I’d see it on such new growth.
Ph runoff was all between 6.25 and 6.8 at last check. I didn’t use dolomite, but I did experiment with watering with calcium carbonate to balance runoff. Perhaps they’ve swung back alkaline.
Also, wanna repeat that since the beginning, some plants are either unaffected or barely touched by this issue. So could be genetics?
@big123… Also a possibility, though the runt is showing this issue and I highly doubt she is bound
Get them repotted, definitely. While repotting, carefully check everything with a magnifying glass. Look for red, white, green, black, or opaque specks on the underside of leaves. If you find any, those are eggs or even bug poo, and definite signs of infestation.
The DE is great, once you get the infestation under control, but isn’t aggressive enough to use alone. I can’t really recommend much for outdoors, but others can, I’m sure.
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This is definitely a repeat of the same issue I’ve been having since they were seedlings… Red haze in new growth turning to necrosis and deformed leaves. It has come and gone.
My gut says pH/ffof issue.
Mixing supersoil with roots as a base today. Hoping that the transplant will prove my hypothesis
I wonder… Should I be rinsing the root balls clean off the current should when repotting? Not a huge fan of that maneuver… But just wondering if the residual ffof will cause further issue
Going to run some rainwater thru the worst and see what runoff I get for shits and giggles
Last part of my stream of consciousness posting…
Ppms going in at last feed were in the 3k range. I had a weird feeling that I might be overdoing it… Could this be nute burn?
Ff big bloom, grow big, epsom, calcium acetate, calcium carbonate for ph
Yes, for sure can be nutrient burn if you went in at 3000ppm. That’s pretty steep…
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Doesn’t explain these symptoms occurring before feeding started… Except of course unless ffof was just way too hot