If they are autos you shouldnt transplant them just put right into there forever home.
I personally put in a cup of bottled spring water overnight until they sink. Sorry for edit, sent before finished…
Then i drop them into a rapid rooter tear of a small corner of the r.r. and cover the seed. This eeps them dark and makes them work a little to push out. Helps shell casing fall off easier and bury the r.r.in the container they finish up in and keep moist with a clf blasting them. If possible ill let the containers under the light and sitting on a large heating pad until they sprout up, then remove heating pad.
Autos meaning auto-flowering they will flower no matter what light schedule. On ILGM all Autos are Feminized.
Feminized seeds means they are females. If they are only listed as Feminized then they are female photoperiod meaning they will need less than 12 hours of daylight to flower. @huncame
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thanks for the info…i did plant my very first seed that i planted several months ago but it ended up stretching out and looking like a alfalfa sprout…i lost that sprout because of an accident…the plants i have pictured above look better than any of the previous plants that i have planted previously…i’m beginning to think that the paper cups that i have planted the 2 AWW may be too small…the taproots on both plants are barely popping out of one of the drainage holes i made at the bottom of each of the cups…i did make holes at the center of the bottom of both cups, but no roots have come out of the holes around the perimeter…using the information that is on the marijuana grow bible, its too soon for me to transplant at this time, the plants aren’t big enough yet…assuming both plants continue to grow well they may be ready by next week…
as for the rapid rooters, i am going to save them for cuttings and other projects instead…sadly, they didn’t work out too well for me…
if the seeds are listed as ‘feminized’ are they better at transplanting than autos?
what do you think of cow pots or similar pots?
my apologies for for not adding familyman420…
Photoperiod seeds (Feminized or regular seeds) can be transplanted as often as needed. Though transplanting creates stress and shock to all plants, Photoperiod plants can veg as long as needed and gives them time to recover. Not better, just different.
I only use these for growing:
1-2-3-5-7-10 gallon soft pots
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013JM3JSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?tag=greenrel-20
I’m not really sure what Cow Pots are. @huncame @Familyman420
Thats the tap root. First root they get. If you see roots coming out of the other holes is def time to transplant. If it comes out of the hole too far you have to transplant because you don’t want to damage it when removing it from the cup.
I use this to help prevent transplant shock.
Superthrive
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007LLEKLQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?tag=greenrel-20
@huncame. @bob31 i also use those bags, a differnt brand but grow bags. Found 5 gal. Was bigger then my wwa used, so now im using 3gal. And is use greatwhite in place of that superthrive but same idea. Not sure about cow pots but grow bags work really well. Im not completely sure if ur growing autoflowers yet or not? But if u are and u can see roots you should plant them ASAP. Autos dont like to be transplanted, be very careful with those visiable roots.
hi…thanks again for the info…so far both plants are doing very well…i have the smart pots and they’r ready to go…i’ll be getting the two soils that bob31 recommended a week or 2 ago…and thanks for delineating the difference between the feminized and auto seeds…i think for my needs, i’ll purchase feminized seeds from now on…i can easily provide the sun or artificial light that they need to grow…i also understand about transplant shock…about a month and a half ago, i transplanted one of my VFTs from a 3 inch pot to a 6 inch…it had become root bound and it needed to be moved asap…it went into shock but it took a while to recover…i did it when it was entering it’s seasonal dormant phase…it took it a while to bounce back…i couldn’t add any plant hormones to help it without risk of killing the plant…i think that all the crickets i fed it during the summer helped…lol…
as for the cow pots they are pots that you can use to plant seedlings…when the roots grow out of the pots, then you transplant the entire pot with the plant reducing the chance of shock…for the most part, the pot decomposes into the soil…the chance of shock is reduced because you never have to remove the pot from the plant…it appears that cowpots are made from cow manure…there are other pots made of peat only too…i have also found a conversation on the ILGM forum regarding these biodegradable pots…
https://www.amazon.com/Jiffy-JP406-Pots-Round-pack/dp/B001B0CN6W/ref=pd_sim_86_7?tag=greenrel-20
Jiffy pots are not recommended for use as they don’t always degrade fast enough and hinder growth of young sprouts. They also tend to fold in moisture and don’t allow for proper drainage or for air to get into the soil.
Here is an example of what I start photos in
Hopefully the cow pots will work for you. The peat pots… not so much!
What a wonderful DIY air pot! Poke more holes! @bob31 the more the better
There are already a hundred holes in it, LOL and Ive started more than a couple plants in them. I think the cow pots that @huncame has are pretty cool too, though I’d like to see some holes poked in them for drainage and air!
I dont have any experience with cow pots, they seem in theory like they might work good for outdoor grows. But i agree with @bob31. That ive heard a few people have issues with peat pots and pellets restricting grow big time.
hi everyone…i was thinking that cowpots may be a better alternative for auto plants…being that autos may be more susceptible to transplant shock under conventional means of transplanting…but that is my beginners experience on that…as for the jiffy pot’s, i have done some more checking around…i found out they aren’t that great even for non-cannabis plants for the same reasons that bob31 mentioned…i will not get those…later, i may experiment with the cow pots and auto seeds and see how they workout…
i have also chosen some feminized seeds to grow for next year…right now, i only have auto white widow and auto blueberry seeds…as i mentioned a while ago; i am keeping those under cold storage (refrigerator)…i am storing them in black airtight 35mm plastic film canisters…inside each canister, is a 1 gram cobalt chloride free silica gel packet…each packet is able to desiccate 130 cubic inches (2130 cubic cm)…
by next wednesday, i plan to transplant both plants…i’ll report back and let everyone know what happened…
bob31, did you use a power drill on those plastic yogurt cups?
Feminized just means its a photo plant, that was pollinated with female pollen, and the resulting aeeds are now feminized and will only grow into a female plant. This would be easier for a beginner since it would take some guess work of picking males out, a reg. Photo period plant seed has a 50/50chanve of being male or female.
Auto means its an autoflowering cannabis strain. Meaning it with automatically flower and does not rely on the hours of light/dark like a traditional photoperiod cannabis plant. It has a predetermined life span, this is why you shouldnt transplant them. They cant just be vegged longer to make up for transplant shock, transplanting an autoflower can greatly reduce your final yeild.
A tradition photo period plant fem or reg. Would handle transplanting better, in fact its recommended to start them the way you are already doing it. And allow it to grow until the roots fill the container, then transplant to larger container and so on…
If your looking for easy and effective. Fill your container with choosen soil, plant a rapid rooter in it and drop your seed into rr. Tear off a small corner chunck and cover the seed. Just make sure tap root is down and it covered from the light until it breaks ground. No transplanting.
Hope this helps.
Actually I used a soldering iron. Makes nice clean holes and quickly too. I found that letting the iron heat to a point and unplug or it got too hot and made quite a stink, but it’s a cheap easy way to make the holes! @huncame
I usually go right into the forever home with Autos (3 gallon cloth pot) and use the yogurt cups for the photos.
How are you making out @huncame
hi…sorry for the late response…last week, i had planned to take a day off from work and spend the day putting moving the plants out of their current environment and planting them in their new home…it didn’t happen because problems cropped up at work with staff and i had to be there for several days to help mediate the problems…well, the plants are still in the 6 oz espresso paper cups…and i can see the plants are suffering now…some of the older leaves are yellowing but both are continuing to sprout up and still appear to be making new leaves…i am no longer spraying with water and watering them directly…i plan to move them out tomorrow afternoon (monday) and into their forever home…thankfully, i don’t work so i can move them out with no hassles from my job
i have one pot from the very first plant that i potted and lost earlier this summer…that soil is clean and has been fallow since august…one of the plants will be re-potted there…i just bought more soil today to replace the soil that i threw out a few weeks ago…good news, i finally calibrated my PH meter and it works…i also have PH up and down liquids in case i need to use them…
PH readings:
on that fallow pot, the PH meter indicated a 6.1 PH in that soil…is that good?..
the tap water coming out of my home kitchen faucet is 8.0 PH
the PH up and down instructions doesn’t really say exactly how much should i use to change the PH in the soil…all it says ‘use sparingly-add nutrient solution, little at a time, then test PH. Repeat application, then test, until desired PH is achieved’…it doesn’t say exactly how much to use or how much is ‘a little at a time’ (ie 1 drop, tsp or tbsp etc) and into what amount of water…(ie 1 gallon, cup, etc)…the PH up and down is made by general hydroponics…both bottles are 8 fl oz (237 ml) in size…
i hope that by the time you have read this i will have moved the plants already…bob31 again sorry for taking a while…thanks guys…
Use an eye dropper. In my water a drop of down moves the meter .1 and ph up I need a full dropper. So best I can do is what my experience is.
Are these girls going to be in the ground outside or in pots? @huncame The sooner they get transplanted the better!
hi bob31…the ladies went outside on the balcony…both have been planted into the felt smartpots…i have folded down the rims of the pots so that they can get the more sunlight…i also used hormex to prevent or slow down transplant shock…when i pulled both plants out of the espresso cups, they were already rootbound…one of the plants was already starting to poke its way through the side of the cup…i’ll never use those expresso cups again for any future plantings…for autoflowering plants, i plan to use cowpots so that there will be no need to take them out of the pots…just transplant the entire pot; plant and all…as for the droppers, i have 2 lab quality droppers that i bought on amazon…just a question…when you adjust the PH in the water by placing one drop into it, how much is the amount of water you are placing that drop into?..
as i mentioned a while back, i threw out the other soil that became infected with a fungus…on sunday, i bought new soil…i purchased it at a local nursery…they were out of happy frog and they offered me an alternative soil…its called ‘Recipe 420 Potting Soil’ and its made by a company called EB Stone Organics…when i purchased it, i noticed that it had virtually no perlite…i bought some perlite and mixed it in as an amendment…
as i mentioned, the first pot has a PH of 6.1…i have a feeling that i need to fix that a few higher notches…
the second pot, has a PH around 7.4…i think that’s ok…
i’m also starting to think that it would’ve been better for me to plant in april…
I pH a gallon of water at a time @huncame
I take tap water. Let it sit open for 24 hours to evaporate the chlorine. When I pH it I use it then. Anything leftover would need to have the pH tested and adjusted again to be used.
Good deal on the transplant and the soil and perlite. Could you list the ingredients of that soil for me?
hi bob31…well, the PH that comes out of the faucet is between 8.0 and 8.4, and that’s without any adjustment from my part…i think that it won’t be necessary for me to adjust the PH to a value range any higher than that…however, i am filling at least 1 or 2 gallons of water and letting them sit overnight so that the chlorine can air itself out…i had to move the girls back indoors and place them back under artificial lighting because the sun is too far south, and to make matters worse, a huge palm tree is out in the street blocking nearly all of the sunlight they could get…the plants were getting less than an hour of sunlight in the morning…damn palmtree!!!..
on a side note: i didn’t mention before that the ladies are beginning to smell…i can distinctly detect the smell which is a combination of mint and skunk emanating from the ladies…i have been told that i have a very scary sense of smell…
i transplanted both plants to their 5 gallon pots last week…other then the sunlight issue, it appears they are doing fine…the first plant that i moved earlier last week is growing a little more slowly than the second that i transplanted on Wednesday…i assume its because the first plant its going through its transplant shock phase…the first plant was placed into that fallow soil that i had mentioned earlier…i decided to perform an experiment on the plant that i moved on Wednesday…before i transplanted the Wednesday plant into its forever home, i got some q-tips and dipped them into clonex…then i brushed the clonex dipped q-tips directly on the roots that were exposed outside of the rootball and i also put some extra clonex on some of the roots that had been ripped and broken as a result of me taking the plant out of the espresso cup…i then planted the Wednesday plant into its new home (that the ‘Recipe 420’ soil that i bought last sunday on 12/10/2017)…i then poured in a generous amount of hormex over the plant and soaked the soil around it…well, so far it appears that the Wednesday plant never went into its transplant shock phase…
as for the what’s in Recipe 420 it contains, it’s a blend of premium aged fir bark, coir, sphagnum peat moss, pumice, earthworm castings, seabird guano, crab meal, and humic acids. Enhanced with mycorrhizal fungi and beneficial soil bacteria.
i didn’t find out about the shellfish stuff until i started to prepare the Wednesday pot…i was really sh*tting it the whole time because anaphylactic shock isn’t a joke…i had my cel phone handy just in case things went south on me and i had to make a call to 911 to rush me to the ER…i have no epipens handy…well, good news on that part, nothing happened and i put that pot together with no weird side effects…lol
its been over a month since i last wrote my last post…this is just an update on the 2 girls that i planted…it appears that both are doing well, however, i ended up with 2 very noteworthy results…i originally planted 2 AWW…and now one plant is a little over 7 inches tall, frosty white (her trichomes and not a fungal infection), and from appearances it’s flowering and developed early…the second AWW, is over 44 inches tall (1.11m) (and still growing!!!), she started to flower too (flower buds and no trichomes anywhere on the plant), and now her roots are barely beginning to break through the 5 gallon felt pot where she’s planted…i planted both of them around october of last year
the taller plant was placed into a soil that i bought at a local nursery (recipe 420)…before i moved that plant into that soil, i mixed more perlite into it because it didn’t have that much perlite to start…i’m thinking that this plant isn’t an auto-flowering WW but perhaps a feminized strain and i am not even sure it’s even a WW…i thought that the plant would top off at 36 inches (91 cm)…
the smaller plant was transplanted (also in a 5 gallon felt pot) into a soil that i had left fallow for several months…that soil was harder and more compacted and i didn’t mix any more extra perlite into it…i’m suspecting that’s the reason why it hasn’t grown that tall at all and why it flowered so soon…
i hope someone can give me guidance here as to what to do with ms. Goliath and my small girl…thanks!!!..