Brown spots on veins of yellowing fan leaves

Strain: ilgm strawberry kush

Age from Sprout: just under 5 months

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco / Brand and type of Soil & Size of Pots: using ffof in five gallon pots for the last 2 months.

How often do you water and how do you determine when to do so? Depending on stage of growth usually about every 3 to 4 days tops. At the end of flowering they usually get really thirsty though. Lifting them and just feeling the soil via finger.

PH of water and runoff or solution in reservoir: the last few waterings have been right around 6.5-6.8 going in and 6.1-6.4 coming out.

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS: I don’t have a Ppm or ec meter, I have successfully grown through harvest 5 different rounds now by using 1/4-3/4 what the recommended doses are on the bottle.

Indoor or Outdoor: indoor

Light system, size and height from plants:
1000 watt hps in a vented hood, the closest the plants get is about 15" but never closer usually the bulk of the canopy sits between 18-20"

Temps; Day, Night: day 74 night, 67-68

Humidity; Day, Night: day 43-45 night 45-49 depending on when it was last watered.

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size: Yes, 720 cfm pulling through a carbon filter and pushing out through the hood and continuing out the window. All in a 360 cubic foot room. Also have two 16" oscillating fans on the “1” speed setting in the room to keep things moving.

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier: dehumidifier if anything gets over 50

Co2; Yes, No: no co2

Running botanicare “bloom” for flowering, adding their calmag when necessary- generally in veg and during stretch.

----Okay so I have four plants in the grow room, just staring their 4th week of flower. only one is experiencing what I thought might be a nitrogen deficiency because fan leaves that are exposed to the light were turning yellow and staring to get blotchy brown dots. But at the same time some leaves were showing signs of a nitrogen toxicity, looking dark in their shade of green and also doing the N claw. (Shown in some pics) and lower leaves were also doing this same thing with the yellowing and dots. The effected plant doesn’t seem to be stunted in any kind of growth but the fan leaf problem is definitely spreading. I attached some photos of some effected spots on the plant and also a screen shot of the banner photo from your ILGM’s “Stop nutrient deficiencies in marijuana plants now!” Page, (after googling nitrogen deficiency) which looks to be very similar to my problem, but the photo, like I said was only the banner at the top of the page and wasn’t actually used alongside a description of the problem like all the other really helpful list items on that page.

@Andrewcarelock What brand of nutrients are you using, what schedule are you following? Most nutrients come in a package of three that are the main ones to get you through growing.

I’m gonna take a guess and say overall nutrient deficiency and a bit of a pH issue.

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Thanks for the reply bob! I’m using botanicare pro blend series (veg, flower, and calmag products) which have always done the trick, you may be on to something with a general underfert, but the nitrogen claw makes me want to think it may not be the case. And I’m following the back of the bottle of the pro blend bloom (flower nutes) which indicates how many weeks you feed a certain ml and it progressively becomes more the further into flower. But again not doing their full recommended amounts as usually it’s too hot

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Well, you have two things going on. Your low pH is locking out the N and you need to increase the amount of nutrients you are feeding them. Some plants don’t tolerate pH swings. You need to get you mix or water to 6.5 every time. I think you also said you were only feeding at 1/4 to 1/2 strength? Are you measuring the TDS? ok disregard the last question. I just read that again.

Some users recommend easing into your nutrients at 1/4 then 1/2 and so on. I think that particular plant needs more nutrients (without looking at the others…)

last grow two Blueberry side by side, everything exact. One showed cal-mag deficiency at week 5 of flower. The other did not. !00% exactly the same grow!

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Again I really appreciate the fast reply! That completely makes sense given the ph level running out of the bottom of the pot, and where in the ph range nitrogen is best soaked in. Id like to ask what you think of the clawed leaves above the yellowing leaf in the first picture I posted? Reminds me of nitrogen toxicity which is what has really thrown me off from the start of this issue. I think your right about needing more nutes in general because these plants are much bigger than any I’ve ever grown under the same feeding regime. I’m just worried about the clawing. Maybe I could find another feed that doesn’t have any nitrogen at all? Or just do a good flush followed by a normal feeding?
Thanks for all this help man, I’ve been scattering all over the place for the answer or at least help to this issue. Also do I need to wait for the soil to completely dry from my last watering if I need to change the ph and flush things from messing up the last feeding?

That’s crazy about the blueberry plants, for the last 2 years as long as the strain is the same then all the plants in the grow usually react the same to everything. This is my first oddball single plant

When nitrogen is in excess potassium and calcium would be locked out, my opinion looks potassium and calcium deficient both

That is the same as my plant and the same problem. I had PH of 6.5 in the pot. Had no other way of checking at the time. So added nutients with Potasium at 11% was Fox Farm bud formula. Seems to be working as I have no further leaves getting the brown spots. Waiting for my electronic tools to check these things out better. Right now only have a soil test instrument. It works but isnt sufficient ya know. Newbie so what do ya expect. First grow. But ILGM is the best. Had no end of help.

At four weeks into flowering adding more nitro would be counterproductive. If you are using a bloom food now it may not have what the fan leaves need but the buds are what’s important. If have had fan leaf issues from starting bloom food too early usually. Didn’t see what brand of food you were using.

Thanks cyberblast!, so basically you just added a PK booster? Was it in
top of what we nutrients you were already running? And I know! I love all
the help, it’s really motivating.

Andrewcarelock

Over-wateirng could be your problem Take a look at the pic i provided…

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Look’s just like yours so only you know for sure how much you water

But at the same time some leaves were showing signs of a nitrogen toxicity, looking dark in their shade of green and also doing the N claw. (Shown in some pics) and lower leaves were also doing this same thing with the yellowing and dots. Both of these came be form over-watering

Will