I have a silver haze and lodon pound cake both r the same age 4/1 they r budding early but where im at probably about right compared to last years harvest…im outside in pots using happy from soil ,im using fox farms trio i started with the recommended feeding schedule but backed off due to the yellowing of the leaves …my thoughts r since they r transitioning from veg to flower they r dropping their shade leaves to prepare for the flowering stage …is this right??? Here r some pics of what the leaves look like …please any thoughts ,comments , or suggestions r welcome and appreciated!!!
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Continue your feeding schedule, but there should be a flushing schedule also. Looks to be the start of nitrogen deficiency
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Also looks a little potassium light. The creeping along the leaves edges suggest that to me. Typically seen as they flower. Start taking in a lot and cannibalise the leaves to get it if not available. Just my thoughts.
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Dont back off, keep your thumb on er, this is a critical point of intervention. Good nutrition goiung into flower.
I dont know FF but it looks like it grew good and breathing good and got sunlight so good energy, I think it couldve used up nutes in three months.
FF nutes have a couple of flushes in the schedule. These are highly recommended. Sledgehammer is their flushing agent.
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Thanks for the advice …the 1st flush i missed so should i do it now ??? Or wait until the 2nd flush is due thats in a week ??? I will order the sledgehammer today so i will have it around the end of the week
3 months is now …what up nutes do u recommend…im gonna do the flush then what. ???
I havent used FF I could really get this wrong.
If my plant looked like that I’d flush with water (again cuz I dont have ff sledge) and test it then followed by feeding of around 1000ppm with my bloom bloom, at pH mid-sixes. I have one bottle of GH Floranova for bloom, I wouldnt know how to tailor the FF system for this stage of grow
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Ok thats a start the grow big from fox farm is 6-4-4 so i will get the nitrogen from there unless more is needed …i will do a water flush today when the sun goes down because it has been in the upper 90’s with 80-100% humidity…
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Are the 3 FF nutes like a grow, bloom, and a micro? If memory serves me the bloom and grow dont have a lot of minerals, just 4 or 5 ingredients. Besides the bloom flood use one that has a lot of minerals. I think FF Micro, does that exist, help! Im over my head. FF people around?
ON way out, tty
Not sure this will help but these r the 3 ff in order they recommend starting with the big bloom its not what u would think as fqr as the name not sure why they named it that …it is used up until a month from harvest
2nd is the grow big for veg … this is the 1 with nitrogen heavy
3rd is the tiger bloom the schedule says use the 1st and add the 2nd and then add the 3rd continue to use all 3 at the end
Thanks for ur help
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I recommend the flush. Mix twice the amount of solution as you would when feeding. Say you mix a gallon to feed, mix 2 gallons of Sledgehammer. No need to pH. Run that through, then follow with 2-4 gallons of distilled/RO or pH’ed tap water. The plain water follow up will make sure that the Sledgehammer is washed out. Check the end of that runoff (the plain water follow up) to make sure the PPM’s are under 1,000. As soon as she stops dripping feed at full strength.
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New to this thread, but I am also doing an outdoors grow and have been using the happy frog soil with the FF fertilizers shown in the thread. Are you supposed to be using all of the fertilizers combined throughout the stages of growth or once flowering stage begins only use the flowering stage fertilizer? One of my 8 plants has begun to flower so I stopped using the grow big and was only using the big bloom. Should I still be using both together at this point?
Also, should I be concerned that some of the plants lower leaves are starting to turn yellow?
Maybe I need to flush as well but I have never done that before. Gonna try to read up on it.
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FF nutrients leave a lot of salt buildup at the root zone. The flushes they recommend knock it all loose and “flush” it out. Other nutrient brands don’t leave as much. When done properly, though, the plants don’t miss a beat.
This contains most of the micro and macronutrients needed outside of N-P-K.
Nitrogen is a mobile nutrient that helps others get where they needed. During veg, it’s essential for vigorous growth, but too much can lead to toxicity, eventually causing other deficiencies, lockout and a whole mess of "what is it?"s. Later in flower less is needed as the plant focuses on ripening, not so much growing.
This is basically the bloom booster, though FF does have dry amendments that can be used just before and through flower. Lower nitrogen since the Grow Big is still being used, but higher PK values since more of those will be demanded by the plants.
Hey there @Handyman_91 !
Yes. You start using these when you have a runoff ppm of ~1,000. FF soils usually carry a plant 4wks or longer with no nutrients needed.
Incorporate all 3 of the FF liquid trio. They are meant to be used together, per the schedule. This could be the cause of the yellowing, as they might not be getting everything they need. But, as plants age, older fan leaves will yellow and die off. If it isn’t progressive, I wouldn’t worry. Just make sure that you are mixing the recommended amounts of all 3 liquid nutes, and maintaining and input pH of 6.3-.8 and ~1,000ppm a proper run off of around the same numbers.
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@Borderryan22 spot on brother u nailed it on the schedule…now i need to get the sledgehammer…u recommend doing it as soon as i get it becaaue i have to order it
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@Handyman_91 what strain are these ??? And about how many days old ??? Just wondering ??
If you can measure your runoff, you may not need to. They could just be hungry. Also, I didn’t catch if you’re using calmag, but it’s a good idea to with FF soil/nutes. When I used FF nutes in FF soil, I added calmag first, then nutes, then pH to proper range. I used it with every feeding, and if they seemed to fade quick, waterings in between with just calmag, pH’ed of course.
