Hi guys, I need some advice for my babies. They are doing really well. Until yesterday, the leaves On the plant in the first cup are droopy a little. They were looking just fine, all standing up happy, but then her leaves starting drooping. At first, I thought it was because it was night time and the plant went to sleep and it’ll sometimes droop. But she’s in sun now and they are still droopy.
They haven’t been watered since Sunday, June 12th at 9 am.
So I thought she was thirsty, the bigger they grow the more water is needed. So I gave her some water so, we’ll see how that helps. I added a drop of h202 into the water as well before I watered.
To help give it an oxygen boost. (Solo cups don’t have good aeration )
If anyone can please chime in and give me some tips of why the leaves are lookin droopy?
I’m gonna see what it does with the water, but hopefully it isn’t anything bad going on.
First 2 pictures are of the same plant. The last 2 pictures are of 2 other plants I have going, same soil, and water. Soil I used isn’t really nutrient rich, so I added coffee grounds (used of course ) when I made my soil ammendment and I also added a little mushroom compost.
The other 2 plant photos is to just show you how they’re looking, the first one is the one I’m having issues with.
As you can tell, the leaves look kinda droopy. I’ll give an update later to see if it’s because she’s thirsty. Any advice helps!
Edit: I just posted this, it didn’t post all the pics I tagged, and put them in a weird order.
Just know the plant im refering to having issues, is the one where the leaves look droopy, you’ll know when you see it.
I was also wondering what og said about drain holes in your cups. Im thinking other than water do they really need feeding as long as those mouse ear leaves are still healthy im under the impression that they contain the food the seedling needs.
Hello, thanks for the reply, the medium looks really wet because I just watered before I posted this.
I mentioned in the post that they haven’t been watered since Sunday June 12th. So i was thinking the leaves were a little droopy due to her being thirsty.
So I just gave her some water.
As far as nutes goes. It could be a nutrient thing. Like I mentioned also, the medium isn’t a hot soil by any means, which is why I added in some used coffee grounds and some mushroom compost.
The issue here, is that the other plants, that have the same medium, same water, same lighting, they don’t look like the one that has droopy leaves. As you can see from the other pics, the other ones are looking just fine.
And yes, the solo cups have quite a few holes on the bottom for drainage.
Seedlings do not need water. Cook the soil for 24 hours prior to planting the seed. Keep the environment at 80% humidity for 2 weeks. No nutrients! Still developing a root system. Keep da babies in a dome or throw a baggie over her head. At 2 weeks, I start using a dropper or mister and wetting the soil around the stem.
Thanks for the reply.
These babies are just over 2 weeks old.
I did what you mentioned as far as the humidity bag for the first week. Then I started misting them with a spray bottle with filtered water.
I’m just more concerned with the now droopy leaves that just started to occur as of yesterday.
Update: since I watered earlier, and being in direct light, the leaves look a little more happy and raising up.
So hopefully it was a water thing, but like someone else mentioned, it could also be a nutrient thing, because this soil im using isn’t very good soil for growing cannabis.
NPK ratio of the soil is .03-.03-.05
So barely any nutes, which is why I added used coffee grounds and some mushroom compost for more nutrition before I planted the germinated seed
Understood. Keep in mind that nutrients at this stage will only lead to problems. The roots are developing yes but they are growing from the humidity and light at this stage. I do not water my babies for the first 2 weeks period. Once I cook the soil the germed seed is going into, it has sufficient moisture to carry the 2 weeks until I remove them from the dome. They get a heating pad at night that keeps the interior of the dome at 82º and that warmth helps to create additional humidity. I use good soil from start to finish as well so I do not need to worry about adding anything. Congrats on the bounce back and keep us posted.
Thank you for the info! Much appreciated. Yeaaah unfortunately I didn’t have good soil from the start, just some potting soil mix a friend had given to me after I purchased my seeds.
I just bought and recieved 5 seeds of White Widow CBD autoflower from this company! So, I will be starting those up here soon, but this time, I’ll be using Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil through the entire grow to see how they do in that.
Because the NPK ratio on this potting mix im currently using, is pretty low in Nutrients.
I think the used coffee grounds did very well, and if it hadn’t been for the coffee grounds, I bet those leaves would be yellow from Nitrogen deficiency. And from research, the used coffee grounds are potent, so I did use a little bit for each plant’s medium.
Also they are a slow release of nutrients, which will benefit in the long run I am hoping, This is my first true grow so, I’m only speculating, but from growing many other plants, and using coffee grounds, I am pretty keen to how my other plants like the tomato’s I grow, they respond very well to the little coffee grounds I put in.
And since cannabis is nitrogen hungry during its veg stage, I thought that’s pretty important.
But then again, the leaves only started to be a little droopy yesterday evening, and I thought it was because it was going to sleep like plants do, they’ll slightly droop,
But we shall see!
Also, these 2 other ladies are doing great!
Just not sure what’s up with the one I’m having issues with (pictures further up in this thread)
But this is the one in the pot as of just now, as you can see it’s looking pretty looks like she’s praying.
And here’s another picture I just took of the one I’m having trouble with.
This is a couple hours later with some water and sunlight.
Looks a little better, but leaves are still droopy,
One last suggestion based on your mention of Ocean Forest. I use 3 FF soils. Happy Frog, Ocean Forest and Coco loco. HF is my #1. It has Myco in it which promotes root growth. I use 2 parts happy frog to 1 part each of the Coco loco and the forest. I put the coco and forest as a mix on the bottom of my cup and the happy frog on top. I also mix in 20% perlite. This is the soil I mentioned I cook 24 hours prior to placing the seed in it. You can get 1 bag of each as a package for $26.00 bucks on Amazon. And I mean $26.00 for all 3 not each. That’s 8 bucks a bag. I use this same mix through my 4 transplants over the course of the grow. If you could at least add the HF to the OF, from my limited experience that would be better.
Thank you so much for all that info, I’ll definitely give that a shot, I really like Fox farms line of soil. And you’re saying all 3 bags are 26 on Amazon? That’s a steal, I’ll need to look into that.
Also, do you think, from the picture, that this is because it was due to being thirsty? I don’t know honestly, I think that may be the culprit bc I haven’t given them any water since Sunday morning. And I read that when cannabis is thirsty, the leaves will curl down, which is what it kinda looks like.
But also read it can be a nutrient thing, which could also be true due to the quality of this soil.
I will play it out and see how it goes, bc in reality the first sets of leaves aren’t going to matter in a couple months anyways. They’ll either die off or be pruned and thrown into a worm bin.
The bottom line. Don’t add additional water once you have the soil in the cup and it is premoistened for the 2 week period it is developing roots while in the dome. If using a good soil that already has NPK in it like the Happy frog does, then you also do not need to nute it for at least 4 weeks. Honestly, I just look at my babies for the first 4 weeks. Definitely do not start training or any of that til the 5th to 7th node depending on the girl. Remember the ol saying sometimes less is more and this can definitely be attributed to seedlings.
If those are two weeks, I’d be thinking about getting them in some better soil. Seems pretty small for two weeks. This one was 19 days. You can see how the tips on those two leaves are brown. That’s due to to much direct outdoor sunlight to soon, so I’d be careful about that.
Oh wow! Okay, yea it’s definitely the soil then.
These are just a few autoflower seeds I got from a friend, Blueberry Auto.
I was thinking the same thing too, 2 weeks into auto flower should look more like yours.
I just looked at my photos, June 2nd is the date when the seedling poked out of the soil.
It didn’t start lookin droopy until yesterday evening when the sun went down. So I’m not entirely sure.
I’m going to give them some time to see if they are just lagging behind a bit, but if the growth still isn’t very much, I may throw in a couple drops of nutrients.
Because if the soil was a great mix, I don’t think I’d be having this issue.
Definitely stay tuned for the White widow CBD auto grow, I’ll be only using good quality high nutrient soil like Fox farms so I don’t have to worry about the nutrient thing.
I’d be doing it now if it were me, but that’s just me, so you’ll need to do what you think is right. If that’s an auto, I’d want to get it on the right track asap.
I just turn them upside down and kind of shake, tap, whatever, to get it to come out in as big of lump as possible, then plop it in a hole, and keep it in tack as much as possible. I have never had a plant stress from transplant.
Hey guys I think I figured out the issue.
But I need some advice to see if I’m right.
So earlier I posted asking for help with one of my plants. And I go back just now to check on it, and this bug was crawling all over it.and it looks like a fungus gnat. I took a video of it walking around on the leaf. It has antennas and wings, and looks like it has a straw like mouth like a mosquito. So I’m not sure, but I think it’s a fungus gnat… and if it is… would 1 cause the seedling to be sick like this in a matter of a day? Because the plant didn’t look like this until yesterday
Like he says, but use the VULCAN GREETING split around seedling stalk (perpendicular to plant), to cuddle plant as shaken (or tapped) out of cup. Made much easier as mentioned if recieving hole is pre-fitted and very close for receiving plant root ball. I always water the cup before shaking out (hold together soil).
looks like she’s praying.
