Guys, the amount of “I won’t touch that” and “I might hurt someone’s feels” should stop. I agree 100% that it should be a helpful and “welcoming” forum but if you don’t have the initiative nor the gaul to tell someone they fu…“effed” up"…there isn’t much point to it.
I mean, “curse” words aren’t even allowed in a normal conversation (I have been tagged for that)…(i.e. “I 'f++ked up”)
I whole heartedly understand not pushing a product nor tool as that is subjective but this whole deal of not pointing out when someone is wrong, being afraid to, or “lightly” suggesting they are wrong is just that…wrong.
It seems people here are semi afraid of creating muddy waters and if I wanted to grow the best bud ever some of the old timers should be able to flat out, no BS, tell me how or when I messed up…
I’m not saying people should be allow to be “A” holes but to tell it like it is without a warning or issues would be helpful to members…maybe it’s just me
Just food for thought…carry on.
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@PurpNGold74 if you got something to say let’s hear it …
I have had 1 like and 2 replies disappear since you’ve been replying…
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There is a fine line between being ‘constructive criticism’ and being an a**hole. We are cultivating a friendly grow forum. With members who tend to become friends and somewhat family for some of us. I know this forum is the only ‘social media’ I’m active on. And these are the only people I can discuss my ‘hobby’ with.
Allowing people to cuss, be rude, obnoxious, or just outright combative with the communication is counter productive to why we are all here. Texts are a lot harder to understand ‘tone’. So it’s in the Forum Policy to act like a decent human being (not verbatim, but point stands)
If you want brutal unrelenting criticism, there are many other forums that would love to have you. If this place scratches an itch you have, then abide by the simple rules my dude.
For the most part, I agree with you. People are way too sensitive these days. Everyone doesn’t need coddling and it’s raising a very soft generation. But in regards to a pot growing forum, the rules are there for good reason
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Sorry man. I get a tad long winded when I reply at times. 
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Dude, we’re on a similar page but not the same paragraph. I appreciate your reply…
But…when I ask for constructive criticism there is zero, not some…zero. Reply.
Maybe I’m doing better than I thought, maybe people are to afraid to speak out. Who knows…
That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think bashing should be allowed but saying “I fucked up” or “you should have done XYZ” or “don’t do that, do this” would help tremendously…
I have grown to know there are many methods to people’s madness while growing but hearing all of them is better than 2-3.
I read, read, read, then cherry pick what I think is best for me. A little conflict wouldn’t hurt during that process.
And yes, kids these days are too damn soft, that’s coming from a “young’in”
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I think one of the biggest advantages to any forum is the wide variety of attitudes and personalities. I’ve seen people here who are not afraid to call it out when they see bad info, and I’ve seen others who don’t seem to be bothered and just move on. For me personally, it depends on the day and what kind of mood I’m in. Sometimes I don’t want to be anything but passive, other times I might feel a little frisky, but regardless of any of that, the only real obligation we’re under is to not violate any forum policies!
I do hear you on the sometimes overly gentle approach to telling somebody they messed up, and I’m definitely guilty of that myself, but I think it truly comes from a good place. I’m not a softy, my father was a military man and then a cop for 30 years. I grew up with strong discipline and a “get over it” attitude from him no matter what was wrong. I’m glad for that upbringing, it set me up for the real world and prepared me to take care of myself, but I couldn’t see myself being that way with a stranger on an online forum, lol.
I’ll typically respond to posts here if I have some advice or compliments to offer, or a question to ask. When I find myself in a spot where I’d have to say something I think might hurt someone’s feelings, I’ll usually choose to just say nothing instead, because I feel there are plenty of people who are more comfortable with things like that and they can probably find a better way to say it than I could anyway. Just another reason why it’s good that the forum is made up of so many different personalities.
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@DieselGRWR, I think it’s totally reasonable for you as an individual to ask the community here to be more blunt with you when you’re seeking advice or critiques. If I knew that someone was looking for that, I’d be much more comfortable offering it.
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I have been on this forum for a number of years. If someone is making a mistake with their grows it seems that folks are quite willing to point out their errors. If someone does not head the advice, most of us move on. We are not here to argue over things.
There are many folks with differing views. That is OK, even if the differing view is actually incorrect. Again, we aren’t here to argue. It is possible to assist someone without treating them poorly. If an individual feels that it is necessary to be “brutal” to be honest, this forum is not the best fit for them.
For most of us, this is a hobby that is supposed to be fun.
edited are to aren’t, if I misunderstood lemme know
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Ahh. I better understand. There are a few around here, when I see them start typing I hold my breathe… a mod or two included. But for the most part, yes majority of members use kid gloves when giving advice.
Normally when people start out. The bluntness can be a total turnoff. N lead to people giving up before they start good. Like @Cap_Ron stated, if u want the meat, no gravy, it’s completely fair to ask for it like that. N if you need someone bare knuckle with ya, me and the aforementioned mod can cut it straight with you when needed. It’s just on a whole, u catch more flies with honey then vinegar. N we aren’t raising kids (or soldiers) we are growing weed. My garden is my therapy. Between 5 kids and the ole lady, work, pets, life in general, 50 hour work weeks, etc. I come here to vibe, relax, look at weed, and help a few peeps. If my start here had been as blunt as RIU or the like? I probably wouldn’t still be a member.
N I was raised tough myself. Bills at 13-14, you break a leg ‘just walk it off’, there’s your destination so get there by your own journey type of father. That just got me ready for the world. My mother instilled kindness, compassion, and all the soft 
the forum sees from me. That got me able to socialize with anyone and fit in any crowd without alarming everyone (an even more important trait then being tough, looking like me where I’m from).
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Thanks for the edit @PurpNGold74, my enter finger is sometimes faster than my proof reading. 
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@DieselGRWR Like mentioned, feel free to ask other to be brutal or whatever when looking for advice or critiques for your plants.
Countless times, I see others pointing out other growers’ “mistakes”, etc. while still being clear, yet not … brutal. Being “brutal” doesn’t seem to be necessary.
There can be different ways and aims in growing, too, so some things aren’t so black and white. Think I’m making sense, haha. 
I really like this chill forum, though. It’s a great place to hang out and learn. Brutality not needed. 
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Not asking one to be brutal but actually be truthful …sugar coating isn’t only on sugar leaves
I appreciate how chill this form is but chill doesn’t always help people
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A pretty cool older grower that wasn’t great with his words and it’s said his head could get a little big.
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Not sure if that’s a compliment or a “diss” lol
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I rather liked the dude. Like said above, sometimes hard to take text 
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I tend to hang with the rougher crowds but try my hardest to fit in everywhere I am 
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I’m 33 going on 63…I get it lol
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