Well, I an not sure if you can call this a win but I am going with that for now. GS 1 & 3 are growing well and look great. GS 2 is still kind of small but looks good. I am fighting with the AK-47 again. I am not sure what is up with them. I had all ready lost 2 of them before. The poked their heads out of the coco and gave up. This third one has grown about an inch wider but pretty much looks the same as last week. It just hit 3 weeks today. The other 3 all finished week 5 today. Gs 1 & 3 are 10" tall. GS 2 is only 4 1/2" tall but is healthy at least. My luck will be the 2 tall ones will end up as males and the small one a female LOL Not a big deal to me if that happens. I figure what I am learning this go round will more than make up for it down the road. It is the AK that concerns me. I am going to admit that most of the trouble probably lays with me here. I wasn’t paying good attention to what week it was on. I only looked at the size when I decided to move it from a 1 gallon pot the the 5. it was not ready to move. It had only been in the 1 gal. for 2 weeks. When I moved it. I did not see a root ball per say like the others. the soil started to crumble some. I had no choice but to set her in the 5 gallon bucket. Since then. She really hasn’t grown much and the leaves keep going brown on me. I am not sure if she will hang on to the end. I am not giving up on her. I will keep asking questions and who knows, She just may end up well. On the plus side. If I need to giver her a few more weeks over all to grow, it will not be a big deal. Her room mate is small and will probably do better with a few extra weeks as well. I can start to flower the other 2 at 8 weeks as planned. They should both be over a foot tall by then.
Any ways, here is the end of week 5 for the GS & week 3 for the AK
Also, since the GS plants are in 3 gallon pots, should I flower them a little early or will the be ok waiting the 8 weeks? I don’t want them getting root bound.
Thanks again
GS 1 week 5
GS 2 week 5
GS 3 week 5
AK-47 week 3
AK-47 not doing well
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@MattyBear, @Dieselgrower, @Sirsmokes, I think I really need help.
I will start of with I am getting super frustrated. I think I have learned the right steps to grow. but a little to late. I am sure this is 100% my fault. All my plants are starting to get brown leaves. Here is what I think I know.
When I just use plain water, The plants seem to do better. It seems like most of my issues come after feeding.
We started getting rain which has really jacked up the humidity.
These are in a 3x2x60 in. closet. Not heated other than lights and just one tiny fan. Not vented. I don’t want to cut up my closet for this… So I know a lot of this s on me. It is pretty full with the 3 plants in it.
Right now I feel like a yoyo and really not sure what my next move should be.
I have ordered a 4x4 grow tent which will be here thursday the 8th.
I have ordered a 6" charcoal filter fan set up which will be here friday the 9th.
And a small humidifier which will be here monday the 5th.
The new tent set up will probably not be ready till around sunday the 11th. I want to make sure it is set up to make things easy for me.
I am setting up a spare room just for the grow room. It will also have A/C in there to use when needed.
I plan on getting a bigger humidifier for the whole room a little later. Right now it seems that all I am doing lately is spending money tring to get most of what I need. I originally planned on just using CFLs.
I tell you. It was much, much easier just putting a seed in dirt and watering every now and then LOL I didn’t have any of these issues then. Maybe I should just fill the room with 1 gallon buckets and grow 1/8 in each LOL
Seriously though. I guess I am now wondering. Are these plants fixable? I just switched them to a 12/12 schedule a few nights ago. I thought I was doing ok then. Do I need to flush these and start over again? I can’t fix any of the real issues till I get the new tent set up.
Here is what I ordered and pictures of the plants now. The last shows a page from my book with all the feeding and watering info for the last few days
4x4 Tent
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01731MNJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Dehumidifier
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078WK1CGG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Charcoal filter 6"
https://www.amazon.com/Powermaxx-Premium-Charcoal-Carbon-Controller/dp/B010IVOWN6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1520104637&sr=8-4&keywords=Powermaxx-+Charcoal+Filter
Thanks for any advise.
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They are definitely fixable and they will be happy once you get them into your new set up for sure! You’re in coco right ( I assume due to the ph #’s). They get hungry for Phosphorus and potassium in flower.
Thanks @MattyBear, Yes, in coco, Do you think I should try and flush these with water & cal mag and start there? Or keep going as I am. It looks like they are not using any food right now. On the left of the chart. F is for food and W is for watering. I am sure you knew that though. The little AK is in the same boat now and looking the same as these
I am using the flora bloom 3 pack for nutes at 1/2 strength
https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Flora-Bloom-Fertilizer/dp/B017H73708/ref=sr_1_3/143-1311036-1050317?ie=UTF8&qid=1520108843&sr=8-3&keywords=flora+bloom
Your numbers don’t look out of whack to me from your notes.
ok, tonight is just water so I will keep going as I normally do. I just watched a video where the dude was saying that watering temps are important. I now wonder if that may be some of this. normally i water with room temp water. As of the last few times. I have been warming the water up to about 75 as to about room temp at 62 or so. I am going to try room temp again and see if that helps.
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@Not2SureYet do you ph your water?
Yes, 5.8 - 5.9 I bumped it up to 6.0 one day because it was coming out lower than what went in.
@MattyBear, @Dieselgrower, @Sirsmokes well, plants are still looking good. Still showing a touch of nutrient burn I think. I am still just watering right now. I used distilled water for the 3 days but am using bottled water now.
I used the miracle grow perilite as mentioned before. After seeing this. I think it may be releasing gobs of nutes into the coco. The first picture here is from the new B.D plants. It is the run off from 3 days of watering. It is actually growing like algae. I notice the perlite has a lot of semi green rocks in it. The same in the big plants. I have new perlite for when the Blue Dream gets transplanted.
I have anther odd issue. My plants don’t seem to want to switch to flower. It has been 18 days now since I went to 12/12 schedule. They are in a tent in a dark room. I may have to transplant these before I figure out who is male or female
Try to put them in total dark for 24 to 48 hrs and then star 12/12. As far as the first pic I wouldn’t expect that much algae growth in 3 days. Are you letting the coco completely dry out before watering? I too grow in coco and have not ran into this before but I let all my runoff drain before I put plant back in its place in box, that way there is no standing water and they are not sitting in stagnant water. Also turn off all your lights and get into tent, water 15 min and look for light leaks. Make sure your fans or equipment doesn’t have any little power lights. If you can see your hand after being in box for 15 min you got a light leak somewhere
Oh when you do transplant I would look through the old coco and make sure you don’t have anything growing in your roots. Also if you believe the miracle grow peralite is contributing to this issue you can flush it before you add it to your coco
The very bottom pic looks like a preflower.
I normally remove the water 1/2 hour after watering. Since there is very little run off for these guys. I figured I would just do it every now and then. I don’t let the coco dry out. I just water every morning. The top is normally some what dryish when I go to water though. Well, on the other 4 that is. These are still real young so I just give them a tiny bit of water. I will check as you mentioned for the light leaks tonight. There are 2 windows in the room but one has a shade taped to the wall and the other has black plastic to block out light. I am going to take your advice any ways. The bottom vent is always open. I didn’t worry about it since the room is dark and I don’t go in after that. I did have a red light that reflected just a touch from the humidifier. I put black tape on that.
Thanks, I always flush the coco and perlite before using it. I threw what little I had left and bought some stuff that says is clean with no nutrients in it. I wish I could get rid of what is in the plants now. I get the FloraKleen today. I am going to water again with it this afternoon…
I was wondering if that might have been a pre flower too. I have a lot of tops like that. The stems don’t show any thing like all the pictures I see. Just the 2 little pointed pistols I think they are called.
And if those are pre flowers. That would mean all 3 of these are ladies?
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Sounds like you have it covered. Only thing I can suggest letting the coco dry out more before watering. I go by weight but I also periodically will check the top 2 inches of coco if it’s not dry I don’t water.
ok, I thought I was supposed to water every day. I picked up a different brand of coco coir. I was using some stuff from home depot. This new organic stuff feels better and soaks water up a lot better. It almost has a soft fluffy feel to it. Now lets hope the new perlite turns out to be just as good. I am going to try and feed tomorrow at 1/4 strength. See how that works.
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I too was lead to believe it needed watered everyday. With that being said I water in early veg they get water every 3 days, and my tent gets up to 82, 83. Now I have one in flower and does require being fed everyday and one in late veg that gets every other day.
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You’ll need to water daily in flower more than likely. In veg I can usually skip a day between feeding/watering in coco.
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Would one consider this to be from a female plant? These are starting pop up every where now.
Unfortunately that looks male to me. I’m just the bearer of bad news today @dbrn32 @Myfriendis410 @Donaldj @BIGE @Dieselgrower
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