Loony results - 6 identical pots, all treated the same but 2 runts! Reasons?

Jaysittinback

What season is it there? Just outta curiosity. I see your temps are exactly where our mid-summer will be
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We only have two and right now it’s the Dry Season :- )

I dont know why I didnt catch it earlier, but your humidity is high. Can you get it down to around 50. I hit 40s because scared of mildew and mold.
It will br eaiser to figure out problems when theyre breathing properly.
Its our dry season now haha cant access water from ice and snow, indoor humidity dips to 20

Got some numbers, coir hold 80% its volume in water, peat moss 68%. Organic matter hold water well too. How much perlite? Can still water by the weight change of your soil

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Jaysittinback
I dont know why I didnt catch it earlier, but your humidity is high. Can you get it down to around 50. I hit 40s because scared of mildew and mold.
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Yep - it’s the Thai challenge - high temps and insane humidity! Nothing I can do about it. My first two attempts have been really all about what strains work over here and what don’t. It has to be autos, as for 9 months of the year we have 12½/11½ daylight. Autos seem to go a bit silly (depending on ther their genetics) and I’ve had one Dieselmatic that went tall and skinny on me and all 3 Friesian Ducks (just cos they’re pretty) came out without webfoot leaves.

The big problem is Botrytis. I’m wise to it now and snip buds as soon as they show the first sign . . . it’s always the big dense colas. But It sometimes seems to work if I carefully prise open the top buds to let the air in. The smaller popcorn buds don’t seem to get it.


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Its our dry season now haha cant access water from ice and snow, indoor humidity dips to 20
Chuckle back at ya - likewise ‘dry’, other than the temp and humidity! : - )
(My local bar - it’s the low season and right now I’m sometimes the only customer!)

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Wow its a nice place

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Yes - I usually do it by weight - if it’s easy to lift it gets water (and nutes every other time.)


Jaysittinback

robsamui
Wow its a nice place
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I love it! Been here 26 years now.

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Nice pic cool idea!

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8 OR 9 DAYS LATER . . .
I’m still puzzled, as these two seedlings were germinated one week after the main batch, as the first seeds had a couple that didn’t take. (All of them autos . … . )

Some great advice from the posters here meant that in week 3 they were fed AN Micro/Grow/Bloom at half strength at 20 days. One week later all the paleness had gone . . . but they’re still little and stunted.

The main batch - the first planted - are all doing fine and are now in pre bloom at 35 days

I’m not complaining, as I’m now gonna get something out of them, and they may well liven up in a week or so with regular feeding.

But I’m still wondering why there’s been such a difference between the two batches, Maybe the Moon went out of conjunction with Saturn for the second lot . . . :grin:

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If you can keep that top cola from having dominance you may find that the other lowers will size up and the top cola will diminish. So a more average size bud. I find the same problem as you often. This is true even with “mold tolerant” cultivars, that a big top cola is just a recipe for disaster. Weigh or tie down the top so it is not above the lower main branches.

Also, as the tops start to put on weight, I like to shim the buds with dry sticks. I usually use dry canna stems hunks or cut up popcicle sticks. It splays open the cola lobes to increase airflow. If I don’t do this there are many strains I cannot harvest in the cool seattle fall rains.

Love the bar pic. Makes me wish I were there. My sister moved to Thailand 10 years ago. Unfortunately we had a falling out after our father died and are no longer in touch….

Sorry for late reply.

Yes - a big cola has a target on it when it’s mould time. Right now in T’land it’s moved into our hot season, with a humidity level of around 20%, so no probs with buggered buds. (But those runts are still runts - essentially a lolly stick (um - ‘popsicle’ stick ?) with a mini cola on it. I’ve given up on 'em - I’ll get a coupla good smokes so that’s OK.)

Explain more re what you said about ‘shimming’ the buds?

It might be exactly what I’ve had the idea to do (but with slivers of bamboo instead) - I’m using these little bits of wood to poke carefully into the coda bud-mass so that it’s opened up a bit and the air can get inside. Does that sound the same?

I’ve got 6 other plants on the go, into their 9th week now, and the 2 Gorilla Glues now have BIG colas, even tho’ they were LSTd sideways early on. Having opened the colas up there’s lots of new white pistils still coming around the edges, but no sign of harm, and no sign of bud rot either. It seems to do the trick.

Sorry about the falling-out with your sis - I’d be lost if I wasn’t living on an island now - this is my 26th year here.

Thanks for the very useful reply - take care now - bye for now.

Exactly the same.