What’s up kidddd BORN AND RAISED IN MA ,I moved to Denver like five years ago but if I were in MA and needed good genetics check Illuminati seeds
I spent some quality time with the girls this weekend. Re-potted them all and re-arranged the tent. They’re all now in 5-gal cloth pots, with trays underneath so the runoff can be collected and removed.
I was waiting for my Akos and Mykos to arrive so I perhaps waited a tad to long to repot. most of them were pretty packed with roots. I’m sure it was worth the wait, however, to get that A and M sprinkled in when repotting.
I’ve now got the 2nd light hanging, they’re both running at R25, W50, B60 at the moment. I’ll crank them both up to full on W and B soon. I’m planning to do a bit of LST soon as well, but most likely not going to have the time to test out a full SCROG like I was originally hoping.
Here’s the ladies before they moved to new homes. One little Gold Leaf plant was in dire need of a drink. She perked back up quickly after repotting and seems to be recovering well so far.
A look at some of the roots during the process.
Purple Haze root development
White Widow root development
and here’s the lot of them once everything was done.
in the back left you can see the poor little Gold Leaf that needed a drink. She’s reaching tall and strong despite a little loss on the tips of the leaves.
Good luck out there y’all.
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Looking nice bro
looks to me like its going to get crowded in that tent with 8 plants lol
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Ha! Yes indeed @Countryboyjvd1971 it sure will. I’m gonna pull 2 of them out pretty soon. I’m only going to flower 6 of them, so as to stay within the new law.
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Lol nice
Yeah I don’t worry about those (laws )
I’m still an outlaw here in NY lol
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Hey Sconi, Looking great! I am a new grower in 2016 and got in 3 grows of ILGM WW Fem. Tremendous Genetics! I’m upped my game for 2017 to a 4x4x80" tent with 1000w HPS! I scrogged in my 2x4x60" tent w/ 400W HPS last year and will do again in the 4x4. My delema is in the 4x4 setup/layout - Question being, how to reach the back plants?
Watering is facilitated by the side doors in the tent - but they don’t zip far enough down; they don’t open up enough under the scrog platform. Like @Stomper, I guess there is only one time to go underneath the hood for under-canopy pruning - but how does everyone with deeper grow tents/rooms reach into the Outback? I hate to open up and waste space on a step-path! 
Thanks!
These are my 3rd set of ILGM WW Fem clones, 2 plants under a 2’x4’ scrog, Day 34 in 12/12:
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Plants look great. From experience, a five gallon plant will fill a 2x2 square in about 6-8 weeks starting from seed with the net 14" above the soil (24" off the ground). This is based on good but basic soil and nutes. Hydro is different and not my baileywick.
Filling a 2x2 with WW produced between 40 and 50 individual bud sites so a 4x4 Scrog will do 4 times that as an estimate. If you have good light, soil and nutes each bud can be an eighth to a quarter ounce for a good beginner grower. Experienced folks like Latewood and McG could dance circles around that but it’s a good estimate for a sophomore grower.
With 8 plants in that area you may have to go with a quicker flower time. No matter how you fill it you need about 2"x2" area for each branch.
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Hey @radamsonilgm, your scrog is looking good! the back row in a 4x4 is tricky for sure. I’m not positive I’ll do a real scrog because of that.
but, I have been dreaming up ideas of an irrigation system of sorts. funnels mounted on the sides of the tent that connect to tubing that carries the water to the pots. I’ve already got mine resting in containers so that the runoff comes to the front so it can be cleared out with the shop vac.
If/when I sort something out for watering the back row I’ll be sure to post it here.
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@Stomper, thanks for the encouragement. your estimation of yield based on the space sounds great to me. I’ll be pleased with half of that!
I’m not sure yet if i’ll actually do a full scrog but I do intend to do some LST to fill up the space and try to keep the canopy even.
As for the 8 plants, the plan is to only flower 6 of them.
thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.
Ran into a bit of a problem.
Since repotting all the plants they now need much more water than in the past. So I switched from filtered water to water from the tap nearest the plants. The ladies did not like it at all is seems. I checked the difference in the PH between the two and the tap water(which is softened well water) is reading at about 8. I checked some runoff that was present from the last watering, and it was also reading about 8. So I flushed them with some water at a PH of about 5 and will now water with the tap water after it is adjusted to about a 6.
I’m hoping that this sorts out the problem. I’m in FFOF mixed with a bit of happy frog as well, this is what led me to believe the problem is PH related. I’m assuming there is plenty of nutrient in the new soil and the plants just aren’t able to take it in due to the PH being around 8.
I also took the opportunity to raise the lights up to about 32" from the plants, but I pumped up their output as well. so hopefully the coverage is a bit more even now throughout the entire tent. So the settings are now R25 W70 B90. I plan to put the W and B full up next time. maybe bump the R to 30 as well.
a close look at one of the worst examples
This BG is much less effected.
a look at everybody and their symptoms
and here’s some closer shots I took after the flush. just to get a view of how they’re developing despite the deficiency. hopefully they recover quickly and continue to thrive as they were before.
I also labeled them a bit more clearly so it would show up better in the photos from now on.(and make it easier on the eyes in the tent as well)
I also took the opportunity to raise the lights up to about 32" from the plants, but I doubled their output as well. so hopefully the coverage is a bit more even now throughout the entire tent.
WW1 after flush
WW2
GL1 after the flush.
GL2 (stunted)
PH1
PH2
BG1
I trimmed off some of the leaves that were badly damaged. I didn’t take more pics after apparently. Oh well. Here’s hoping that this next week is smoother and more productive.
Thanks for stopping by.
Take care everybody!
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Your going to have a tent o green bro
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@Sconi I know you said well water, but have you ever had your water analyzed?
You hit it on the head about ph. The new growth will tell you if you fixed it. The affected leaves will not rejuvenate tho. Soil likes ph around 6.5 to 6.8 if I remember.
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@Stomper @Sconi I’m just thinking that those plants are showing multiple symptoms. I’m a noob so I’m still really learning but one watering high pH and only off by 1.2 on the high side? Just seems like a lot of damage to me?
@Stomper thanks for the confirmation. that’s why I went ahead and removed some. not a lot. just some.
@bob31 not sure, if so it’s been a long time. I thought about getting a meter that does ppm so i can get a better handle on it but I’m hoping the ph adjustment will sort it out. The well water is going through a softener but is still reading around 8 on the ph scale.
@bob31 it was more like 2-3 waterings depending on the plant. and the multiple symptoms is what makes me think it’s PH. If the root are in a ph environment of around 8 that is too high for uptake on at least 3 nutrients based on the charts I’ve seen. I’m not positive that I’ve got this diagnosed right, but that is the major thing that changed (aside from being repotted, but it’s the same type soil).
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@Sconi ok man, I just wanted to be sure there wasn’t something else going. Looks like you’re on top of it. I’m on local water and my water is loaded with Chlorine and mineral heavy. I have to pH it down a bit less than you and leave it out for several days to dissipate the chlorine. Always something. Hope they stat picking up!
If you’ve got a pH of 8 that’s very possibly your issue, maybe fill out a support ticket with more information ?
A ph that high will cause all sorts of issues from nute lockouts and such. They all get fixed by first correcting the ph. Then judge the new growth. If it doesn’t look better and ph is good then I would get the mentors to look at a support ticket. I would not chase individual symptoms until I knew ph was good. End up over loving her like “looks like potassium deficiency” so you add more but when ph is good again and no more lockout you now got too much potassium in the soil and it burns so you chase that and on and on.
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Ok, just got pics of the girls about 36h after the PH adjustment to the water. As far as I can see here things are looking up. On some leaves that I didn’t trim you can still see the shock they suffered from earlier. but there’s new growth already and the leaves are looking less dark green, brighter and more lively I think.
I’d love to know what y’all think however, in case I’m just being overly optimistic. @Paranorman @Stomper @bob31 and anybody else that has thoughts. Thanks in advance, you guys all rock.
This look at the front row makes me think things are going well again. GL2 in the bottom left is the one that was stunted during the repot, and she seems to be really thriving again, after this PH adjustment.
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