I hate it when stuff like this happens because it is so hard to remain calm and not want to try everything at once! It’s so frustrating but when it comes around next time (if and when) you’ll be one leg up from past experiences.
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yeah, well that’s what we said about the last grow. not gonna lie, this is taking some serious fun out. i keep coming down with stuff that’s really hard to get rid of and is super contagious. trying to keep positive thoughts for now. i wish i could get this diagnosed. probably have to wait for it to get a little worse first. there’s a plant store, not that close to me though, that you can take leaves in and the old dudes sit behind a desk with microscopes help sort you out. may need something more powerful than what i got to see what’s what. i’m not seeing any “fruiting bodies” in the center of these spots which makes me think it’s not fungal. but i also don’t know how big they are and if i should be expecting to see that at 250x.
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Yeah man I feel for ya, I wish I had something more to offer insight wise… I will definitely keep sending good juju your way and hope that maybe it will help sort things out 
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all good, thanks. shoulders to cry on are good, too. and good juju always welcome.
I have plenty o shoulder my friend
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Start Week 6 Glue Gelato Auto Update
Octopot, 6 gallon
Coast of Maine soil, no nutes, just water
ES-300 light at maybe 25%
Temps low 70s. I took the humidifier out to bleach the heck out of it so now humidy down to 40%. but if i have a fungus, it’s maybe not a bad thing.
not much new to report. just watching to see what happens. treated the leaves day before yesterday with copper and i don’t think it was exactly gentle. leaves are quite dry. i see some milky white residue which i’m going to chalk up to the treatment. i was going to do H2O2 next but i think i should give it another day. i also gotta stop taking leaves off to look at under my microscope. gotta remember this is an auto it is already so small. but i am now officially neurotic.
the res tank was also at 7.8. so many folks can “set it and forget it” but i am apparently not one of those people. i topped the reservoir off with a gallon of water ph’d way the heck down to balance it all out to 6.5, and i included some Calmag in there just in case, though calcium would not have been locked out at the higher ph according to the charts.
i have a half a bag of coast of maine soil left that i’m probably going to throw out. this started a few days after transplant. i don’t really know what to think.
will see what tomorrow brings. going to monitor the res every day, which takes some of the simplicity out of not having to water.
@Poseidon, here’s the plant i’m currently killing
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She will not only make it, she will slay 
I have faith you will rock this
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Dude, have some more confidence! You’re gonna get this all sorted and teach others how to do the same. One thing that came to mind when you mentioned humidity…with octopots, or hydro in general, does the roots being constantly wet affect VPD and the numbers you’re shooting for there? Maybe lower humidity will help like you said, but maybe you should be shooting for a lower number to begin with? Just a thought. Is there any control as to how much wicking is happening? The videos I’ve seen on them show a moisture gradient from dry up top to wet at the bottom. Yours appears wet all the way up.
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all good questions. i don’t know if VPD is affected- thought that all took place at the leaf but i admit to not fully reading the theory behind it all. if you go by the charts though, my humidity was too high. not sure why i had it my head to target it at 75%. i set that number in my head and rocked it.
just hooked an inkbird up to the seedling tent and am letting that control the humidifier since having the AC infinity control it via exhaust kept it running almost constantly and was dragging the temp down. hoping it’ll bring the temp up a little. but now not sure how to program the AC infinity to exhaust on a timer. thought it was a function but… not so sure. ALSO. i have three humidity probes in one tent and they are all wildly different. frustrating.
but there is no way to control wicking.
just feeling depressed. was financially stressed prior to all this happening, and then i doubled down and may be faced with more tossed plants, and one of the birdies on my shoulder is telling me to cut my losses.
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F*ck that bird. I’m sorry you’re feeling down. I know you’ll get it all figured out. If you set the exhaust as low as possible, it should bring the temperature up some, which should also bring down the humidity.
Don’t let sunk cost fallacy get you, either. You can only change what’s in front of you today. So you spent some money, oh well. You’ll make more, and you’ll figure all this stuff out and the money you save not buying bud, while some will go back into your grow, a lot of it will just go in your pocket.
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it’s already low as possible. i just want to be able to exchange the air every hour. i’m also pretty down on AC infinity these days.
what i really need is a room that i control the temp in. or a balanced HVAC system.
That is a tricky thing. I live in the desert, so I am typically trying to figure out how to add humidity. But thankfully, dryness doesn’t attract bugs and things. What’s the rest of the house like? Hot and cold spots, or pretty even?
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my tenant in the basement is in shorts and frying with all the vents closed. comfey on the first floor. freezing on the 2nd. it’s the opposite problem i had in the summer where i really struggled to get the humidity and temps down in flower (tents on the 2nd floor)
blows my mind that a house that’s all of 800sf is this unbalanced. i think it’s way more detrimental to the plants in the summer than what i’ve got going on now. it’s just a little chilly. but that 80% humidity in summer is a bud rotter.
Is there one thermostat for the whole place? Where is it located? Where is the return, where you put filters?
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yeah just one. thermostats on the first floor. return with filter in the basement. only one more return on the first floor. he took them all out of the 2nd which i didn’t realize.
the problem is when we renovated this place we took out a wall and put in an LVL which cut off the joist bays and the HVAC guy ended up doing something weird to wind the supply to the master bedroom. in hindsight what he did was just dumb. and it’s all flexiduct. i need to try to put in a duct booster. if i could get a freaking job i could refiniance the house and put the addition on, get this bedroom completely off this system and on a new one that’s better designed. but… pie in the sky.
actually, for a grow room a mini split would be kind of amazing. as long as it didn’t break… people seem to have so many issues with them.
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That’s why he’s cooking. All the heat the unit is putting out is getting sucked toward that return. We have the same problem in our apartment. The return and the thermostat are right next to each other, right next to our bedroom door. The rest of the house is freezing, so you adjust the thermostat up, and by the time the rest of the house is comfortable, our bedroom is an oven. If I close the bedroom vent all the way, it causes it to whistle, and makes all the air in the bedroom get sucked right to the return. Dumb, dumb design. Oh, and our heat is aquatherm, too, so that adds another variable…if the hot water is higher demand, there’s less heat lol
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BOO. so… the return is like practically ON the unit. it should be further away? not sure i have the option to run a duct to get it further, but just in theory… should be across the room? actually there is a supply right there too. stupid.
well, when you’re house is like 20 feet x 16 feet, pretty hard not to have the thermostat by the return ha. everything in this house is right next to something else and the first floor is just one open room.
I don’t know that there’s anything you could change easily to help. I’m just trying to get a better lay of the land so to speak. You might be able to reposition the tent, or close/open some vents to change the airflow through the house. Brainstorming.
For example, when my wife is hot in the kitchen, she opens the back door to let some cool air in. But then that cool air gets drawn across the thermostat into the return, thermostat goes “ope…too cold, let’s keep heating” and everything on the other side of the return gets cooked.
Maybe your tenant could open/close certain vents to create more of a draft through the basement, pushing more air upward. Then maybe closing some vents in the middle, opening some up top, etc., would give you more control.
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thanks. i think all i can do now for the plants is just wait it out til they’re big enough and i can get the lights turned up to generate more heat. i’d like to try a duct booster but would require some minor surgery. roof leaks and a washing machine failure took up the budget for the next few weeks.