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Good looking grow going 
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Glad she healed up!
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Wow! Looking awesome for 17 days. Gonna be monsters!
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I know right. Itās like holy tent full Batman.
Thats why the got the bigger tent.
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17 days thatās crazy they look about ready to flip lol
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Looking good Grow Bro 
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Gonna be a full house for sure!
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Looking good man.
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Havenāt updated in a minute.
White truffles slowed growth when I moved them to garage. Cold in there so the water did not evaporate as quickly as needed to feed more often. Plus it kept the roots to wet. Finally decided to put the heater in with them. That raised the temperature and humidity so they seem to be back on track now.
A little droopy today and pots were lite so I fed. 1 shot grow big 1 shot big bloom and 1 shot tiger bloom 1 tablespoon epsom 4 gallons water 854 ppm before epsom.They should be perky tomorrow.
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@Venturi
I use Fox Farms nutes have for years.
I do not ust their soil anymore I use promix bx with Mycorrhizae and fungicide.
My nute mix is generally big bloom and tiger bloom. I find the grow big basically unnecessary. The othe 2 in general have enough nitrogen in them. Since most of the salts contained in them come from the grow big and watering to a liberal run off I find it unnecessary to do a flush. I am basically flushing with the liberal run off. At different times I add trifecta Mycorrhizae and at other times I add molasses. I personally think it makes a difference to my plants.
Big bloom is organic and has microbes in it to my understanding. Since big bloom was designed to mix with tiger bloom which contains very little salts again to my understanding I doubt it is killing the microbes. I do use fish tank water for extra nitrogen during early veg. But not in flower. I also only give molasses just before flower and a couple times during. Use sulfered molasses if you can. You will notice a flavor change if you do. I use to think unsulfered was the way to go till I couldnāt get it and had to get sulfered.
I also give between a half to a full teaspoon of epsom salts per gallon depends on how I feel that day.
People knock fox farm nutes because they are either organic growers if thats the case god bless them or there is the majority that just donāt get how easy they are to actually use. Take some time with them and you could find them as easy as I do.
To me they are easy easy easy.
I start with about 6 or 7 gallons of city chlorinated water. Little secret I donāt even let it set to dechloranate anymore and notice no difference in my plants. Anyway 6 or 7 gallons pour in a shot glass and a half of big bloom then a shot glass and a half of tiger bloom check ppm if below 850 add equal amounts of each untill it is between 850 and 1050 anywhere in that area is good. Then add some epsom salts that was melted in very hot tap water. Them ph to between 6.5 to 6.8 for soil if you switch to promix bx with 25/30% perlite ph to between 5.8 to 6.0.
If interested I can elaborate on Mycorrhizae and molasses mixs.
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@Venturi
The molasses I bought that didnāt say unsulfered but instead organic was just molasses that never had sulfer added to it. Thought unsulfered was molasses that had the sulfer removed. Which it is in a way. They add sulfer and then remove it and call it unsulfered. What I got was organic that never had sulfer added so it was never removed. Made a difference in flavor / smell anyway.
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@DRsDank Thanks for the tag. Itās kind of you to share your experience.
I like the dual benefits blackstrap molasses provides, i.e., a direct one from the micronutrients it contains and an indirect one from feeding beneficial fungi and bacteria. Not to mention the obvious appeal of something thatās simple, readily available, and inexpensive.
At the outset, the sugars may sustain the microorganisms while they establish relations with the roots and each other. Recharge and Stump Tea include powdered molasses ā that may be common in such products.
I wonder how valuable it is for the root system once an ecosystem has developed, though. By that time, Iād think a balance would become established, so Iām not sure that adding more propagules or food for them accomplishes anything.
My understanding is that sulfur dioxide was added to molasses originally as a preservative. The sulfur isnāt needed nowadays but some people developed a taste for it so we have both forms today. I believe the unsulfured form is recommended for gardening, typically, but I donāt know why. The FF trio, for example, doesnāt include sulfur, but maybe itās rare for soil to be sulfur-deficient.
Are you saying applying sulfured molasses during flower improves the taste?
What experiences have you had with trichodermal and mycorrhizal fungi and beneficial bacteria?
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All I use out of the 3 is Mycorrhizae.
I donāt put a lot of science behind what I do. I try things and see if it works. Thats probably why fox farm nutrients is so easy for me. I use common sense and what I think works. I have been taught to grow plants starting when I was still in diapers. Be 66 march 24 This weed to me is one of the easiest Iāve grown.
This may sound nuts but some of what I know comes from trying to kill it. I have not succeeded in that.
Donāt get me wrong I try things others are doing to see how it goes. Most of the time I find it takes to much of my time. I can mix nutes, feed and inspect in 15 to 20 minutes most of that time is inspecting. That is approximately every three dayās.
The organic molasses was a fluke. Like I said during covid they ran out of unsulfered molasses so I had no choice. @Venturi heres a couple picks of the truffles they are 5 weeks and 3 days above soil in these pics from the 24th flipped the lights to 12/12 the 18th 4 weeks and 4 days at flip.
Hope my rambling wasnāt to out there IāM TIRED.
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Takes me 5 minutes just to get the pH right! 
What sold you on the Pro-Mix BX? I gather youāve used FF soil(s) in the past ā maybe others?
FF happy frog and ocean forest is kinda like using miracle grow. If you get a deficiency or a toxicity you canāt do much about it without flushing it with tons of water to get rid of what they added. Then giving what it needs to correct what is wrong.
With promix bx you have control from the beginning to the end. Also by adding 25 to 30 percent perlite it dries out faster letting me feed nutes more often when in flower.
You know how FF says feed it every other time. In flower I feed, feed, feed then give straight water then molasses and Mycorrhizae then back to feeding. So about every 3 days to dry out for a three gallon pot. So Iām giving something approximately every 3days.
I also use air pots instead of fabric for more eze of use.
Also I am watching leaves to tell me if I need to change when I feed or give water or give molasses and water or molasses mixed with the feed. Hope that makes sense.
In general the feed, feed, feed, water, molasses works though.
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This is true for any commercial soil. I know fresh Ocean Farm is known for being hot, but has it caused toxicities? Iāve had the idea that itās fine so long as I resist the newbie temptation to add nutes too soon.
Does the perlite increase the evaporation rate, or do you mean the soil dries out faster because the perlite reduces the amount of water you can give it?
How does growing in Pro-Mix differ from coco? It sounds intermediate between that and true soil.
Thereās no substitute for the ability to determine what a plant needs by examining it. This forum teems with photos posted by members seeking a diagnosis. People who are good at that can probably run successful grows under a wide array of circumstances.
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Exactly.
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Increased drainage. So less water stays in pot so dries out faster.
Agreed. FF soil is good soil if you want soil. I just decided to go another way after a nitrogen toxicity. I now give fish tank water through the early veg stage with little run off. About 2 feedings before the flip I start feeding big bloom and tiger bloom. If my leaves are light I give a little repeat little grow big.
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Have you seen this post from Low: Growdocs first journal, yall asked for itā¦ - #1908 by Low ?
Itās apropos of our discussion about Pro-Mix vs. coco.
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