First Grow - Wedding Cake

@Randyrican I dunno. My Cake was 2 weeks late flowering and almost threw off my holiday schedule.


Wedding cake on right, Zxkittles on left

Got some interesting color. She was dieing when I got home from the holidays, Non-bud leaves were yellow and crisp but the buds were fine. yielded 15 oz bud

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Uh oh…thats not good. Autos and stress do not mix well.

Nothing wrong with that, a little late for auto transplant. If the image above (plant in pod) is 6 weeks. Thats gonna be about the extent of this plant. She will throw pistils as soon as she is healthy enough to do so.
This is an auto at 4 weeks from germ to give you an idea of just how stunted she is.

Thats really high ph of water, you want it to be under 7 and above 6.4 for soil. The runoff ph is good but thats because its fresh soil. The amount of nutes in fresh OF will keep th ph of the soil low enough for a time but you will need to find a way to get the ph of your input lower. I use PH up/down for this purpose.

From fresh soil. OF is loaded hot!

Yes 300 watts not a great light but not a bad one either. I have a ts1000 and an fc3000 both from Mars Hydro.

This is actually a little chilly. Colder the temps slower the plant moves/grows. This also might have damged some of the microbe life on your organic soil.
Shoot for 75-81 in your grow space.

You will get alot more longevity from only using your filter during flower and storing it wrapped in food plastic and dry.

This your first grow? If so, you may want to keep going alot more learned from failed attemots then successful ones. If not, the energy, soil, time and nutes used to bring this auto through flower is not going to balance with the yeild. I would trash this plant and start again. This time, mix OF with 25% perlite or 3:1 soil to perlite. (You can use the soil from the pot you just made up for this plant) no starter pot and start her in the 5 gal from germ.

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Thank you! This is my first grow so I’ll keep going and see what happens. I don’t really care about smell so do I even need the filter? I live in the middle of nowhere :rofl:. I have 3 plants going now.

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If smells arent an issue, I wouldnt use it. While it does do a remarkable job at removing smells it also reduces the amount of air that can be moved per min by your fan and is extra work load on fan motor.

Excellent choice! Lady Marijuana will be pleased.
My advice to you is simple. Give her water, ph’d to 6.8ph. Assuming you watered after transplant, wait until the soil dries again. Lift the pot every day so you can get a feel for what it feels like when there is water and when there is not water in the pot. It will become almost as light as a cork. Should take 3-5 days, any longer then that you have wateted too much for the size of your plant. Once dry give her 2 cups of water. Do so in a circle about 2 incyes away from the tips of your leaves. 3 days later check soil moisture around where you watered, should be moist but not wet and sticky. If its not wet still, water with 3 cups if wet still wait till next day and then water only 2 cups. Basicly if she can dry herself by the 3rd day increase by a cup. Do this for a couple weeks. Basicly gonna treat her like a seedling for the next week ir two. Dont feed her any nutes at this time. The fresh OF has plenty for at least a few weeks if not longer. I am following this thread so Ill know when posts are made but if you wanna grab my or any other members attn tag them in your comment like so @Docnraq. Got questions? Dont hesitate to ask.

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@Docnraq, once again, I am thanks for helping out. I seems that I keep forgetting about the difference between autos and photos. Since I have never done autos my old brain doesn’t want to go there.
BTW, can I be a member of your salon? Or maybe we should change that to saloon what do you think?

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Thank you @Docnraq and @Ickey for all of the help. I use rain water and it ph’d @ 5.9 so I guess I need to up it to 6-6.5 before I water again correct?

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If the the EC of the rainwater is low it will be hard to get it to hold a ph level, as the ph will bounce with very pure water. Here is some info that I copied.
Not sure of the exact number, but I would think anything below .2 world be hard to control.
“between 0.4 and 0.7 EC then you have a fairly normal amount of mineral content. The water likely contains enough calcium and magnesium for good plant growth. 0.8 EC or higher then you have a high amount of mineral content.”

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Any water/feed containing less then 350ppm tds is considered ph unstable. Ph unstable liquid will not adjust the soils ph, instead it will take on the soils ph. This could be part of your issue. The liquid your poring in isnt adjusting the ph of the soil. Need to add cal and mag to water to get that tds up.


This chart might help some.

After a couple years of growing now, I have concluded that as long as your tap water isnt loaded with chloramine. Running an airstone in the water for 12 hours to declorinate it is the easiest and cheapest method to water plants.

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Your meter may read EC in ms/cm2 or in us/cm2. I prefer to just read the EC, and use this chart if I need to convert to ppm.

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Great minds and all :wink: and you are already at my saloon brotha!

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Mixed up a gallon of rain water with 5ml calmag and some baking soda/lemon juice to stabilize the ph.

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The PH is great but the tds is super high for not having any nutrition in it. You may not need to use a full dose of calmag in the water. What is the rainwaters tds before adding calmag in. And after but before phing?
I havent used baking soda for phing but it is a salt (SODIUM bicarbonate) it will build up in your soil. I dunno ive read good and bad when it comes to baking soda.

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I use baking soda to ph nutrient solution when mixing for soil. It doesn’t seem to have any bad effects. But it only requires 1/4 teaspoon to correct the ph of a gallon of solution.

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Howdy! It’s been a while because I left the ladies alone for a long time after transplanting and only watered a few cups when the top two inches of soil was dry. Then I was out of town for four days and I let them completely dry out. I just watered with ph’d dechlorinated tap water. Looks like I need to up the ppm of my tap water too :cry:.

PH in 5.88
PH out 6.02

500 PPM in 105
500 PPM out 1737

700 PPM in 147
700 PPM out 2432



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Looking much better! I think that you may want to stay with plain water until the run off numbers start to drop.
@Docnraq what do you think? Nice turn around isn’t it?

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If the water you pour in is only 147ppm it isnt ph stable and its affecting your ability to adjust the ph of your soil. Water needs to be 300-350ppm tds. Achieve this by adding calmag to your water only days until the tds comes into range. Then PH.
Id also suggest input be higher then 5.8 ph.
Agree with @Ickey I wouldnt feed again until tds comes down to 1000ppm. And they look much much happier.

6.5 is soil sweetspot try to offset your input to be around there for example, your last runoff was 6.02ph. Your next input should be higher then 6.5
Ph to adjust the soil up. If your last runoff was 7.02ph you would want to input next time at 6.5 to bring the ph of the soil down, make sense?

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Our cake popped 1/ 3 also with a runtz, both put final pot 1/7/23.

5 autos on 14/10, 12/12 on day 25 on all flowering about same time.

Runtz shot out of the gate, 5x the pistils than cake, now cake flowering hard, now drinking more than runtz. Wedding Cake is now developing huge thirst, twice as much as runtz 24 inches and cake @ 3ft.

Hope yours get right, cake is getting sticky.

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Just creeping around wherever I see Wedding Cake, my next grow. Hey I was here raving about cake about a year ago. Its almost time.
Hey @harleyspops whats the good news, growing?

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