That’s one reason I was scratching my head. Thanks. It’s worth a shot. I’ve got a Walgreens right down the street. Let’s see if they have any. 
Avoid any lavender or whatever scented lol.
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I’ve foliar fed Epsom salts and it seems to help.
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Mixed 1tsp with 4 liters h2o and foliar fed. Hopefully that works.
If the extra heat and the Epsom salts don’t do the trick its time for a good old fashioned flush.
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Sounds right, hopefully gtg in no time. If not, I got a guy that can probably help.
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I just had to flush 2 plants today for lockout issues. Is it normal for the runoff to look like tea?
Make sure to do the undersides of leaves where the stoma are.
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Also rinse them off the next day. It leaves lil white spots on the leaves that wash off.
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My runoff during a typical feed look like tea.
For flush it starts out amber and ends up clear.
Mine didn’t end up clear but was definetly lighter than when started. In future grows, I will definitely be flushing more often.
Didn’t you check your runoff ppms? thats what I use to monitor the flush.
I feel as though I’ve neglected my plants, and this journal.
Life took a left hand turn and I’ve been spending a lot of time away from my home. I’ve had friends try to water my plants, the space heater shut down fungus gnats, an apparent magnesium deficiency which might be a zinc or iron deficiency, and now thrips. Pretty much a recipe for disaster. I’m stubborn so I won’t let it go.
At this point I’ve done several major flushes (3x pot size) and a 2 minor flushes (1x pot size then feed). pH didn’t seem to want to drop below 6.8 until this past feed when I managed to get it down to pH 6.6 and ppm around 1050-1250. The plants had completely stalled their growing for about a month. I spent this week at home and managed to get the heater back on; temps were 55f night to 68 day with high humidity 65/85%. Now they’re 63 and 75 day with humidity ranging from 40-60%.
Not knowing what was bothering them I took a shotgun approach. Epsom salts were added to several feedings/watering as well as foliar feeding. This produced no results. I upped the grow in my feed an extra 10ml for 3 gall. I added ff big bloom. No results. I dimmed the lights a bit, Turned the heat up, did another flush using grow to bring my flush water to pH 6.2. I found thrips and sprayed with neem. Then things began to turn around. The plants have had a growth spurt, and have perked up.
I found dead and active thrips today. I’ll be applying more neem Monday. I also threw down some bt garden dust and sticky paper for the gnats. I’m scheduled to feed again tomorrow. I’ll get some pics and current pH values then as well.
Any hints on destroying thrips. Neem oil is supposed to work, but I want to be sure those suckers are gone before I flip to flower. I’m already 24 days off schedule.
Temps are better now. The humidity reads a bit high because I fed and minor flushed yesterday. I just sprayed with neem before the pics too.
The grandaddy purple seems to be the slowest to respond to the attention I’ve been giving them. Lots of dead/dying fan leaves.
New growth is slower but at least looking better.
The Black widows are taking off again.
Lots and lots of purple stems. New growth looks greener and not purple.
This is where I first noticed something amiss. A bit of shiny ness on some lower leaves and then misshapen growth.
First spraydown with neem seemed to knock out some thrips, but I was still finding live ones. I fully soaked them all today and am hoping to be clear in the next week. Ideally I’d like to feed 1-2x more and flip to 12/12 by the beginning of December. The BW’s are definitely going to stretch out of their scrog as a result of the extra month in veg. 
If the neem doesn’t work, I’m still looking for some input about thrip eradication. I’m growing “organic” so I need something that won’t screw up my soil. @raustin @garrigan62
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I don’t know of anything other than neem that will kill thrips, sorry.
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Nice catch @dbrn32. But it’s not being blocked, it’s reflecting to heaven 
I’ll have to remove the nut on top and get those strips flush to the mount. That should help.
@raustin thank you. Hopefully the neem does the trick. I want to get these girls healthy again and ready to flower.
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Lol, good one!
Check this out …
Thrips are really tiny, but can be seen by the naked eye.
Some may have wings and some may not. Thrips reproduce rapidly,
especially in tight places. That is what makes them hard to get
rid of when using pesticides. They suck the sap right out of your
plant with there piercing mouths, which makes the leaves look
like they turned white. You can tell when you have thrips by
taking a look at your leaves, the leaves will look as if there
chlorophyll have been ripped right off the plant. Plants that are
damaged can’t be healed thus making it harder for the plant to
absorb light. SO if left untreated the thrips will kill the plants.
Damage also can be seen by the greenish black specks of there poop
they leave on leaves. Also the plants will show silver patchs from
scar tissue. Depending on the severity at first, thrip damage might
look like spider mite damage untill it increases in damage and then
thrips case is for sure when you see the greenness replace with big
parts of white. Thrips also can causes viruses to the plants and any
larvae infected will breed more infected pests!. While they suck,
the plants release honeydew which can contribute to mold on your plants.
Adults have wings but do not fly well, but rather jump more. There
are different kinds of Thrips, some more resistant to chemicals.
Thrips can also carry plant pathogens in there mouths and carry
it to other plants increasing the chance for your plants to get
infected. . If your plants are affected during late flowering or
close to harvest, please try to use the safest means of control to
be safe to your health.
Control
One good way to repel thrip’s for those growing outside is to use garlic,
this is a good way to keep them away before you get them. The color
yellow attracts the Thrip’s and should be advised not to have this color
around your grow… If you already have them using neem oil, and or lady
bugs can get rid of them. If the infestation is bad then you need to
use biological solution like, pyrethrin-like insecticides.
Other Products include:
Chemicals
Hot Pepper Wax, Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide (which can be used right
to the day of harvest), GNATROL ( Used in Hydro in the water as well as soil)
,Doc’s Neem Pest Soap Safer Sticky Stakes,TR-11000 Pyrethrum.
YOU CAN ALSO USE THIS:
Tabacco Juice recipe
Take 3 strong cigeretes or more soak them over night in water
Boil it for 2 to 3 miniute’s, adding the hottest hot sauce you can
find, let it cool off and strain using ladies nylons or you won’t
be able to spray. Spray the plants 3 to 4 times a week. You can add
safer soap or dish soap if you like to the mixture.
(make absolutly sure you use gloves/face protection while handling and spraying)
Neem oil works very well too!!
Your Last resort is to use Avid.
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I’ve been using neem oil for 3 weeks now. 4 applications. It seems to have reduced the thrips, but I still found a couple live ones today (I sprayed yesterday). I guess I’m going to have to get aggressive. Good news, The bt garden powder has really reduced the fungus gnats.
@garrigan62 any recommendations for pyrethrin? This looks good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VIALGTA?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&pf_rd_p=f71a6cf7-242c-4a88-bad1-493b7d683d11&pf_rd_r=9A4HE4H5GY9NQENVR1NB&pd_rd_wg=dyypX&pf_rd_s=desktop-huc-carousels&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_i=B00VIALGTA&pd_rd_w=G0ODc&pf_rd_i=desktop-huc-carousels&pd_rd_r=d3f97dde-351c-433c-af95-4b605ec04ccd&ref_=pd_luc_rh_pd_huc_vtph_04_03_t_img_lh
Bad news. I turned on my cobs for the first time last night, right after spraying with neem. I was testing them out and hoping they’d provide some heat vs. running the heater. When I went down this afternoon the plants did not look happy. Some browned leaves and more of the yellowing between veins. The plants seemed to have been recovering before that. Lights were at 14", I moved them up to 16" and shut off the cobs.
I really want to flip these girls to 12/12, but I just don’t think it’s a good idea with the thrips and whatever lockout is still going on. Knowing what I know now, I should’ve taken some insight from @tanlover442 and chopped them when they first refused to respond to my treatment. If I’d dropped new seeds then I’d be ready to flip them now. Ahhhh lessons.
Plants were fed today. 18 liters of pH 6.2 h2o to soak the soil, and then 4 gallons of nutes. I’m feeding about every 6 days.
pH. Is slowly coming down. I’d been stuck at 6.8 for the past few weeks.
I think @dbrn32 was right. I may have locked out magnesium by repeatedly adding cal-mag to my overly lime rich soil. Strange though, I’ve flushed repeatedly and added Epsom salts several times but to not much effect.
I was thinking it could also be a zinc deficiency so ordered this. Amazon.com It never arrived, so I ordered it again. Hopefully this time it shows up. Amazon, you’ve failed me.
Is it possible that the thrips are my source of problems, not a deficiency or lockout? I don’t know I’ve never had thrips before.
It’s my first winter grow in the basement, and I’m seriously considering bringing the tent back upstairs. Temp and humidity are much more consistent upstairs. Of course so is the nagging from the lady about the smell. 
I have heard of neem oil for whiteflies choking the leaves. resulting in splotches then dying.
How long after you used neem oil did the leaf problems show?