3’ tall tent. What is your light’s height clearances? Above the light and above plant’s canopy? Yes it will spread out. A LST training style called flux may be in order. It it a method that keeps the plant low and spread out. This is four plants from a recent grow. I started them this way then, once they hit the side of pot I let them turn up and veg for a couple more weeks. You would have to flip rather than veg longer. The pictures are of them on day 55. I flipped on day 73. Three are AK47, bottom right is a northern lights clone.
This is the NL clone just before flipping. It is only about 9"
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@beardless how much did the NL produce? I grow for personal use so a HUGE yield isn’t that important to me.
This is the NL on harvest day. I took cuttings from its mother because of her trichome production and color.
Dried and cured weighed in at only 75g. I dry trim and the sugar leaves were another 20g.
Almost 2g of kief
My first grow of NL was 4 plants.
The three I did not take cuttings from averaged 118g.
The one I did take cuttings from weighed only 60g.
By the way, I have 3rd generation clones in the tent now. Four weeks into flower.
I also had some in a SOG grow of 12 single colas plants They were in 6" nursery pots in 24x18 space.
Single colas look funny. I harvested these three a week ago. Having some fun…
Trichomes and color
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These are the NL clones in the tent right now
This is the last of this pheno. Sorry to see it come to an end.
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See pictures of my setup and height remaining. I have 18 inches from soil to light and the light is as high as I can go in the tent. I was thinking of setting up a scrog 9 inches above soil. That would then leave me only 9 inches to light. With a 1 gallon pot, it’s the same width as the 3 gallon but 2 inches shorter. I’ll look into fluxing…never heard of that technique.
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A crash course in LST
This is more of a close up. The main stem is bent over. Topped above 5th node. The bottom most branches were removed. Next three are spread out and stapled down. This give you eight main colas.
I use 14 gauge bent fence wire as stables to hold the branches down and in place.
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You think I’m ready to make that bend? Let me know what else I should cut off.
If it has 3 or 4 nodes it is ready. You will want to anchor the stem to the bag, opposite the direction you bend it. You will also need to decide 1) are you going to top the main stem, and 2) how many nodes / branches do you want to work with. Put another way, how many do you have room for. If you top the main stem this will result in two colas. Given the height limitations I would think two pairs of branches below where it is topped would be a good choice. These 4 individual branched plus the two mains would give you six primary colas. I hope that babbling isn’t too confusing.
Additionally, you will want to bend the branches and the two top growth points so they are spread out as evenly around the circumference as possible.
Yell if I can help clarify or if you have questions.
Have to go in for a spinal epidural due to herniated discs from car accident on 2/6/21 so I’m doing uodate 1 day early.
Decided to go ahead and feed her my trusty FFT, starting at week 4 recommended levels. Also added 2 tables spoons molasses. She will get half gallon today and other half Friday or Saturday depending on soil moisture.
Topping will have to wait until next week when I have recouped from injection.
Pictures from top and both sides-
Decided to flip LSD when my GSCX auto decides to flower, still waiting for her to break ground. That will be a total of about 8 weed veg or about 60 days.
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Wish you well with recovery. Another way is to simply top and spread. If only going to have 6 colas, this might be a better option. Once the location of the top branches is determined, the ones below are placed accordingly. Let me know if I can help when you are ready.
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Good morning! Thanks again. So I think I follow but to play it safe, I am going to take some pictures and label sections so I am clear in what to do.
So is what you are proposing the flux method? Or is this the preparation for Scrog?
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Either would work if you want to scrog. The 2nd option of top & spread may work better in a scrog.
It will rely more on the net to keep it compact and spread out than the flux method would. Also, the training is less demanding and less time consuming.
Well I dont know if this will help much but I took some better pictures that you can zoom in on and I also tried to do some labeling. WHere you see #1 and #2, those are the big branches coming out right next to where I topped. #3 and #4 are the other two big nodes but beneath where I topped. I also have some smaller branches under #3 and #4 that I may be able to just do away with? Where you see the circle is where it was topped. Is it normal to have those two new sprouts coming up right next to the two main branches where it was topped. Kind of looks like horns. What I have done thus far is put some U-shaped stakes in to hold down #1 and #2 for early training. I really dont know what i am doing but I am trying LOL. I just dont want to be in a situation where i am fighting an height issue. I’m thinking of building myself a scrog and setting it 9 inches above soil…my plants arent quite that high yet so I have some time. Any other thoughts? Do these images help any? Thanks to the both of you!
Yes that is exactly what they are supposed to look like.
This is a series of photos of a Northern Lights photo. Sprouted 4/10
This a photo of a plant I topped on 5/8
This is the same plant on 5/21. It also is an example of the 2nd option mentioned above.
This is before the two growth points created from topping the main stem is spread apart. Number 3
And this is it after branches
#3 are spread open
A few days later on 5/26. It is probably only 6-7" tall
Your plant is pretty stout so I am thinking this will be the best option for you. The main thing is being careful when you spread the top. If too much pressure is applied, the stem can split. (happens frequently)
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First off let me apologize to @NavyVet420 for hijacking his topic. Having both of your guidance has been extremely helpful.
So it sounds like I’m on the right track. My plant sprouted 1/30 and I topped 2/24. Mine might be stout like you said as it was advertised as being a compact plant. My branches are definitely shorter then yours. So for the time being I am just leaving those two branches, #1 and #2, anchored down. All the others are still too short. As they continue to grow out, I’ll just anchor like you did. How tall did yours end up getting by harvest time with this method?
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I flipped to 12/12 on June 2, grow day 56. It was 11" tall
on day 108, 53rd day 12/12 it was 221/2" tall. She doubled in size. The other three plants were 19" or less. But they all doubled in size too.
I was not concerned about height so I let them turn up.
Felt decent enough today to do some topping and HST 2 branches to get her spread out. Going to wait a week before topping and bending center nodes.
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Someone got a haircut today and more HST.
She is growing at an amazing rate. I know I will have to defoliate but the question is when.
Hey. So got some questions. I topped again today. I had to buy some longer staples for LST as the ones I had were too short. Plant is getting quite bushy. Should I defoliate any? If yes, I have no idea what is safe to remove. Also, I still have some head room, but when should I think about flowering stage? Lastly, I have that little guy in the back that is 2 weeks behind. When I do switch to flower, I guess he will just have to come along for the ride.
If it helps, here is what the inside structure looks like.
