listen @yoshi and @Nicky arent even in the same country and look what they produce with just a little info back and forth. thrust me i could wreck these babies in a week without there imput. i can only assume these guy are professors during there working hours lol. i mean come on look whats going on here i have real healthy bud. buyacka.
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Wait what big chop? @whatbuddyboy
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day 21 im going to cut off bottom third off the plant and any leaves blocking bud site
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got work in 5 and a half hours please tell me im on track @Nicky
Yeah you are for sure.
Scared me as if you were gonna do the big chop as in harvest lol
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@Nicky im no professional and im no one special but im no idiot either lol but im glad i got your blood rising lol. good night my friend
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soon as i stop laughing im off to sleep, loves ya @Nicky
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Lol, hey better to ask then to not
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@whatbuddyboy take this down , itās a no no , I canāt Sir itās policy rules and Iām not the in the greatest aspects of this and I donāt want no problems my friend . Iām here to give freely of all I know and I hope you can take that info and combine it with all you know and put out some monstrous grows .
I try to live as honest and fair as possible for my own spirit to be in right standing , the good book says itās the small foxes that destroys the vinegar, but we going to play by the rules and get you some coporpal tunnel wraps after all this trimming and harvesting . Fooling with my style of radical ways , you might break recordās ate do something thatās never been seen before , I have and live a very high profile regular boring life and I just sit and read 
tons of information for hours on any and everything .
Every thought always starts in the heart 
? Think about it ? Every single thought has a designed purposed from your heart , thatās why itās imperative we learn our value and who we are as a man Every single day , we should be ah little different , a day wiser , and a year shorter to our destiny 
!
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@JJ520 Iām sorry bud , I just seen your question ?
Them clones will produce twice as more it not triple the mother will and the bud will be much more potent than the mother . A clone is a complete version of the plant itās taken from , what I like about clones, once they root , you can skip the veg nutrients and just start them on a light feeding of what the mother plant was feeding cause thatās the diet it came from ? Make sense @JJ520 ! Itās already an established feeding plant 
, once itās cut it just has to root so it can now support itself but it will be as big ate bigger than the plant it came from if you take the strong cuttlings to clone , now of course if you put the vegging time into a clone , crazy sick structure and growth , itās like giving a young plant a 3 year old plant root system , they ready to go on all 8 with 80 pounds of turbo !
This growing from seed had been one of those nerves that reminded Paul of the thorn in his ribs , it reminds me of all the hard times and from seed is much more sensitive than growing from clones .
If you think about it @JJ520 cloning is exactly that , Re-vegging the same plant as itās own , but in my opinion I think the buds on clones gets much bigger than the buds on a mother plant .
That can be a great information learning assignment for you if you up for that kind of challenge and mental stimulation. You can grow a plant , take some clones , veg them up to mother size , and yes clone that one too , and veg it up as the size of the others , you will have to keep the first two mothers trimmed and trained of course if you have the space . They donāt have to be year old plants . But you can clone one plant and than clone that plant off that first plant , flower all 3 plants and tell us which one was the biggest , better yield and quality and potency of the 3 plants !
I can tell you right now , the last plant will be much more potent than the first 2 and can possibly our weight them both if itās done properly to a fair size plant comparison .
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@whatbuddyboy itās all for the greater good my friend . But I truly believe in my spirit you ate going to really shock yourself once you witness how much you can produce perpetually in that setup, you can setup a sea of green and man , every 4 weeks you will be trimming 10 - 20 pounds of just single bud cola plants , look like Lil rockets of buds ready for launching , I call my sea of green the Stud missle room , it look like that firework whistling missiles that has the row of Lil red caps and they fire off whistling and popping ewww pop ewww pop, and they be flying like crazy 
, thatās how a sea of green looks and just do the math , you can put at least 100 or 200 1 gallons under them lights set on 12/12 and once they clone and take root and start to grow new foliage , you can just shuffle your pots as they are finishing in groups of 50 or 100 , but itās a lot of work for just one man !
It can be done though if the hunger for failure is greater than the hunger for success !
I think I have a visual of what Iām trying to point out in your subconscious. Maybe if I give you an example , you donāt have to mimic what Iāve done , but if you do I donāt care if you getting successful results , it makes me satisfied . But you can used that and create your own wits and know howās to get the satisfaction youāre looking far .
This might not be the best photo , but that small roll out table tray in the photo holds about 75 one gallons and once they cloned and rooted , from here they go straight to the Missile Room in a full tray until they flower and if one needs some room with space them out as needed but mainly itās full trays like this of one big bud cola that be from 20 grams to almost 185 grams in weight one cola . And to have 250 of them at a time is awesome but itās a lot of work .
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I order these rolling tables with the 10ft trays pack it full of one gallons of clones and once they take root , we give them a couple of weeks to get going in vegging and off the missile room . Plus I keep a healthy rotation of pheno vegged mothers and some I might train, are some new experiment like the needle trick .
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i appologise for breaking the rules and it wont happen again
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do you think @yoshi that the one gallon sea of green would be bettter than whaty im doing at the minute and its nice to know the clones get better rather than weaker . there is alot to think about there kiddo
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Thanks!
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@whatbuddyboy there is the main man right there @dbrn32 , you want to grow some mean bushes and if you want to talk lights , thatās him and after he finish with you , itās nothing you would need from my know howās, but @Hellraiser , @Myfriendis410 @MattyBear @imSICKkid and itās a few more experts that will get you growing like an expert , Iām just the average Joe that reads .
@whatbuddyboy itās what you can manage reasonably and not get burned out cause the sea of green is a constant perpetual rotation on how you set your harvesting timing schedules . Itās like gator hunting , you cannot wait or leave your plants like you canāt leave your lines, gotta go gotta go if the plants require a calling. So you can really get over whelmed in the sea of green if you cannot finish each process properly , it will have you more frustrated than happy I think , but I can be wrong cause I donāt know youāre drive !
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@yoshi i know what your saying but i also know your no average joe there is nothing average about you. im happy to take instruction from you or advice because you are producing some huge yields even if for sponsors. sometimes we click with people and i trust you i know nothing about you not on the grand scheme of things but i just like working with you and @Nicky too. just the way it is. if i come across a little desprate then its because i am yosh
Just know itās no shame here my friend , but itās exactly what I say all the time ; " Itās not in life you get dealt a good hand , itās the ability to play a bad hand well !
So dint feel like you in this alone my friend , we are all here for some medical reason are life or death circumstance against all odds , let me just help you honestly , Iām an ordained Evangelist with a congregation and I sacrifice my reputation and character of integrity to help my 3 year old niece , sister and aunt and it was the hardest decision Iāve had to face and it was no other options .
Just know you have an honest friend in me and never feel ashamed of expressing your pain , we are all in over flow in some kind of pain my friend . Iāve lost members here I came to be very close with and we talked on here for hours writing and supporting each other Mileās apart and we never know what can come from this are who might can share information that can be that breakthrough moment , so never feel abandoned are alone , I will dedicate my time to listen and read to offer any advice I can ok . Trust me brother if I told my story and itās countless of others of our service brothers who has stories that will make ours , man but I will be in prayer at 3am every morning , and I will include you . I love you my brother and just know Iām fighting with you .
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wow i didnt see that coming niece sistor and auty are the all good?. i told you, you wasnt average i was right first time round āspecialā