This was my first try at DWC Hydro. I’ve switch up significantly.
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Light Specs:
6 - Barrina LED Grow Lights, 252W (6X42W, 1400W Equivalent) 4ft T8, Full Spectrum, V-Shape w/Reflector Combo, Linkable Design, Plant Lights for Indoor Plants.
6 - Honorsen 2000W LED Grow Lights, Full Spectrum Double Switch Plant Lights for Hydroponic Indoor Plants, Veg and Flower (10W LEDs 200 Pcs).
So these are the general specs which are a cut and paste from their spec sheets. The Par values are displayed via images which I can upload if needed.
So these lights should be more than sufficient and the answer to the question still seems to elude everyone.
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Hey mate i just wana start off saying I too started with “burple lights”. I do not wana discourage/ talk down on what you are doing by any means but I feel as if you purchased some HLG lights ,California LightWorks, Spider farmer etc… you will be more than happy and get better chance of solving your issue.
See the issue with some of those lights is they stretch the truth , never heard of the brand you have but buying lights from the more well known companiesmight help. They usually have more legit par values claims. And they have many people to vouch for them , me included.
Like i said not trying to insult I just wana give you assistance like you wanted.
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At 18 inches your “2000watt” led claims to have 1550 par(will get back to this). Now i went and looked at the true watts for the light and it says 390 true watts. For comparison I drew up the HLG 320w for similar watt purpose, their light is claiming to draw 800 PPFD at 18 inches. The issue with your light is they measured in PAR(Photosynthetically Active Radiation) they are measuring the amount of light at the base of that 18 inches. A PPFD reading will tell you how much light will be used by the plants at that height.
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You were already given the answer, dude. Repeatedly. So agree or disagree but the objective truth is likely insufficient light levels to produce dense flower. If you want denser then buy 3 or 4 more of those lights and you’ll see an improvement. Or, almost halve your electric bill and use diodes that put out 2.6 µmol/joule.
Only sunlight is better.
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The problem with the burples is that they advertise what simply isn’t possible. The advertised wattage assumes that each LED is driven at 100%. 10Wx200pcs does not equal 2,000w and the limitation is the efficacy of the diodes used. Your 2000w light is only truly a 360 watt light, and the spectrum is poor.
We see people have trouble with these lights all the time and it is sad. I purchased one when I first started growing again, and I trashed it after a couple of weeks.
I wrote a poor review on Amazon for the light and the company contacted me to offer me money to change or delete my review. I refused. These companies are not only engaging in false advertising, they are also actively manipulating their reviews.
Do yourself a favor and get some proper cannabis lighting such as HLG, Chilled, or similar with Samsung LM301 series diodes. Even the Spider Farmers deserve credit for coming a long way.
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Are you trying to light a 10’x14’ space?
That’s much larger than most people here need or want. Maybe reducing the area you’re trying to cover will improve your results without costing you a dime.
Let’s assume those lights can cover 1 sq ft of light per 40w of input. If that’s wrong, the onus is on you to correct it. Calculate the max coverage, and go from there. You can count on 1 ounce per sq ft every 4 months, and more once you get dialed in.
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Seriously, it doesn’t matter how you’re measuring your light output whether it’s watts or PPFD or umol or PAR - Whatever measurement you choose you got to think about it on a per square foot basis
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It always comes down to the numbers, they don’t lie. 
Hey Guys,
I appreciate all the feedback. Everyone seems to be settling on lights as the issue.
How about some suggestions beyond a brand name. Give me some specific lights or light set-ups that are guaranteed to produce high quality.
Don’t get me wrong. Those pictures are from my first grow using DWC Hydro. As you can see the results where less than ideal. Although the quality was excellent, the yield overall was poor.
I have since switch to a 2 to 1 blend of Happy Grow (PH controlled) and Miracle Grow (Twice as Big) soil. The yield for my latest grow was really good and the quality is fire.
If lights are the issue than I’m willing to explore that. Problem is I don’t have any examples to compare.
Thanks 
The examples are all over this forum - look at any grow journal of anyone who is getting good results and you’ll see a lot of similarities. There’s a reason.
If you are gonna do LED you need to stick with a well reviewed brand like HLG for example. Again, look at anyone who’s growing big and take your cues from what they’re running.
HID lighting is a little easier to know what you’re getting without much research - HPS and MH lights have been basically the same for a few millennia, the only real new tech there is Double Ended which squeezes more light out of a given wattage than the classic single ended bulbs. You can basically buy any brand and get what you get.
A lot of folks will tell you to ditch the Miracle Grow…you can do better IMO but there’s something to be said for keeping it simple until you get consistent results. Then start making changes.
Yeah, Miracle Grow and cannabis don’t get along very well. Some get away with it, but most have problems. It nukes your plants with fertilizer and also submarines your pH every time you water. It’s bad news.
U do know Miracle Grow is n the weed killing business…
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I’ve read a few conspiracy theories claiming that they purposefully make it toxic for cannabis.
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A big business conglomerate like Miracle Grow, n the weed killing business, purposefully making their amendments, n weed killing soils, toxic for cannabis. Sounds like a conspiracy to me, I know many, many, ladies that would perhaps have that opinion, but they’re dead n gone. Killed by conspiracy theories??
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LOL, sure can seem that way. My very first outdoor crop I nuked and killed with miracle grow. I eventually was able to grow some plants to harvest with miracle grow using very low doses (1/8) at every few waterings, yeah MG was not the easiest fert to use.
Once you know Scott’s Miracle Gro is the US marketing agent for Bayer/Monsanto satisfies the “how”. Then the “why” falls into place
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That is along the lines of what I had heard too.
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I use gh up and down though, are they not affected or am I doomed? /Sarc
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Canna gods may frown upon lol
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