Day 129 since sprout, trichomes seem to still be clear to me, all the leaves are yellowing and dropping. I was waiting to see some amber trich’s but i dont wanna let it go longer than i should. Any advise is much appreciated!
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Looks like another week or so
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Yep, still clear week or three should see them clouding up.
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Days from sprout not too important, how many weeks in flower?
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Do you see any “retracted” pistils?
yes more time will help.
I have some Hindu Kush 10-7-2024 seed drop.
They are four weeks since flip (2/7 thru 3/7)
They need 4-6 more weeks, maybe.
That makes 150 days, today?
200 days? for harvest?
I have slow-cold grow for seedlings (slow growth, un-heated garage).
More time for more better, I plan.
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Like yourself said, you still see clear. Wait and wait. And then wait some more. You will know with as much awareness you are already having. Looking good!
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The hairs will tell you, you need to read books as I did 35 years ago, We didn’t have the internet, having others to point out our issues, if you read books by popular growers you will see the issues yourself, I tried using forums some tried to sabotage plants, I read from Ed Rosenthal, he was a god when it came to these plants, My advice is to get a book and read otherwise you’ll never learn by asking others
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I am sure Ed Rosenthal popped out knowing all about cannabis at birth. I will wager he never asked anyone a question ever.
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Growdoc, 8 weeks flower
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1 of my favorites. That was the clone run choice for this year. My profile pic is that stuff.
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Had one in 1982.
Drooled over the pictures.
Got hooked, growing and weed, for life.
It got consumed in the 1994 fire.
ILGM HK-P
4 weeks in flower. 2 weeks since Mighty Quinn started nightly visits.
4 more weeks.
Just Up-planted (1) 1-gal and (1) 3-gal bag into 4-gal buckets (with holes).
FFOF/perlite/BigFoot added/top dressed.
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You can ignore whatever “seed to harvest” times that may have been advertised.
They aren’t always accurate, it’s good practice to note when they begin to flower and start counting the weeks in flower.
Most strains finish in 8-10 weeks, some autos can finish just shy of 8 weeks but in my experience that’s been very rare…
Sometimes plant’s can go 12-14 weeks if under stress or many sativa strains have long flowering times.
I usely note when an autoflower begins to flower or when I set the timer to 12/12 for photo periods and around 8 weeks in flower i start watching trichomes.
Trichomes are the ultimate factor but there are some other signs you can look for.
Like most always, there want be many if any white hairs left on the plant at all.
Nearly all the hairs will have turned dark, as well as the calyx (tiny bit the hairs stick out of) will be swollen up.
I have several in different stages now for examples.
See how theres several fresh looking white hairs on the lower buds, this one has a couple weeks left.
This one has basically no white hairs left but the calxy isn’t very swollen yet.
It’s got about a week left.
This one has very swollen calyx so much so that you can’t even see the hairs like before.
This one is ready now, I’m just pushing for lots of amber with this one.
Sometimes there can be foxtailing at the end and you can ignore the white hairs on foxtailing and focus on the rest.
Heres what that can look like.
But ultimately, trichomes is the best judge of when to chop no matter how many weeks alive or in flower.
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Yup.
4-weeks since flip, looking forward to 4 more weeks of seed growth and trichomes.
Pods are with seed from My guy Quinn.
Nightly visit are a spectacular display of pollen.
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If you read about him he’s well known smoked in the white house , had Snoop light a j for him, has many books about the cannabis plant marked back to 1971, To be as smart as me YOU HAVE TO READ BOOKS1 I never need forums, I read a book back in the early 80s about growqing, I picked up his next version wriotten back in 1985 , and bought his 3rd book, there’s techniques and tricks in these books I see what’s the problem is the attitudes, don’t get mad what others are doing mind your own and read and think for yourselves
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I feel a ban in the air
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You are wrong my freind.
I’m sorry you had bad experiences with other forums but that’s not what we do around here.
We genuinely try to help each other and do an exceptional job most always.
I’ve never read a cannabis book in my life, I learned most everything I know from asking people on this forums and youtube and I’ve definitely learned alot 
No one is mad about you doing what works for you but rather you come across very aggressive and as pointed out, also aragunt…
And the simple truth is, you are incorrect my freind, horticultural has came along way since Ed Rosenthals time, and if someone relies only on his information, they are not going to compete with modern technique growers…
Ed Rosenthal was one of the pioneers of cannabis cultivation literature, and while much of his advice from the 1970s and 1980s was groundbreaking, some of it has since been updated or corrected due to advancements in cultivation science. Here are a few things that were once considered best practices but are now seen as inaccurate or outdated:
- HID Lighting & Spectrum Myths
Early editions of his books often emphasized High-Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting (like HPS and MH) but didn’t fully account for how modern full-spectrum LEDs could outperform them in efficiency, spectrum control, and heat management.
He also promoted Metal Halide (MH) for vegetative growth and High-Pressure Sodium (HPS) for flowering, but today, many growers use full-spectrum LEDs throughout the plant’s life cycle with better results.
- Overemphasis on Soil Amendments & Organic Nutrients
While organic growing is still popular, some of his older writings suggested that heavy soil amendments and composting were the best way to optimize growth. Today, hydroponic and soilless growing methods (such as coco coir) are often preferred for precision feeding and higher yields.
He also didn’t emphasize how salt buildup from organic amendments could cause nutrient lockout—something modern growers manage carefully.
- CO₂ Enrichment Misconceptions
Early cultivation books, including Rosenthal’s, often suggested that simply adding CO₂ to any grow space would boost yields. However, we now know that CO₂ enrichment is only effective if all other factors (light intensity, nutrients, temperature, etc.) are optimized.
- Pruning & Defoliation Approaches
Some of Rosenthal’s early work advised against removing fan leaves, arguing that they were crucial for photosynthesis. While this is partially true, modern techniques like strategic defoliation, schwazzing, and low-stress training (LST) show that selectively removing leaves can improve airflow, reduce mold risk, and enhance light penetration for better yields.
- Seed Gender & Hermaphroditism Misunderstandings
In early cannabis literature, including Rosenthal’s, there were misconceptions about how to determine and control plant gender. Early advice suggested that environmental factors played a dominant role in sex determination, whereas we now know that genetics are the primary factor.
Hermaphroditism was often blamed on stress alone, but we now understand that some strains are genetically prone to herming regardless of environmental conditions.
- Nutrient Feeding Schedules & Ratios
Older guides often recommended heavy feeding schedules that don’t align with modern nutrient science. We now use more precise ratios based on plant growth stages, using tools like EC meters to prevent overfeeding.
The idea that flushing with pure water at the end of the cycle significantly improves bud flavor is also debated today—some argue that proper nutrient balance throughout the grow is more important than a flush.
- Drying & Curing Techniques
Rosenthal’s early books often suggested faster drying methods, but we now know that slow drying (60°F–70°F at 55%-60% RH) and proper curing significantly improve terpene preservation and flavor.
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Congratulations. You have done my afternoon reading, for me.
Thanks for the updates.
Not lazy, just been tasting the home grown, today.
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Thank you
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Btw, @Storm
Is a great member here and greatly appreciated
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+1 agreed
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