# When does the plant transition from the seedling stage to the vegetative stage? **URL:** \ **Category:** Flowering\ **Created:** [March 3, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782 "2020-03-03T21:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/1 "2020-03-03T21:11:57Z")
Basic question, first grow, getting ready to move the plants to bigger pots. Three of them are White widow, and for now, one White widow Auto. The second WW auto one is playing catch up as it didn’t do well initially, but will move soon if it keeps improving. I also have a mystery plant from some seeds given to me. This one is a photo as well. We will be traveling near the end of this month for a few days and want them in bigger pots to go along with a drip system in the greenhouse. I am thinking it will be easier to keep them watered. I am using ILGM fertilizer, so mostly debating when to switch to their growtime fertilizer used during the veg. stage ![20200303_1508281](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/3/3/0337385e2bc92857c2e6f143bbde70edefa2c872.jpeg) ![20200303_1508321](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/d/5/fd5d68ede945b45e10bb7c864a73b717d68b42df.jpeg) ![20200303_1508451](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/5/b/95b2c77df6fd8a0dd8548ac99f8d2f235177b20e.jpeg) ![20200303_1509051](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/b/d/9bde1210a77858183bad8c4c95ecf58d278d3179.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Skydiver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/skydiver/32/504956_2.png) [@Skydiver](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Skydiver)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/2 "2020-03-03T21:26:15Z")
What soil will you be using in the bigger pots? Most have enough nutrients in them for 4 weeks or more before you have to start adding additional nutrients. Are the seedlings in peat pots? If so you’ll want to consider scoring the sides and bottoms (don’t spill them lol) with a box cutter so roots can more easily grow out into the next soil used. Don’t wait much longer as you don’t want to cut the roots as I don’t think they are to the sides bottoms yet. I do this to peat pots before I even fill them. I now use cow pots instead as they break down quicker but I still make slices in them too before filling. You can put them in bigger pots now if you want. ---
**Author:** ![MidwestGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/midwestguy/32/914277_2.png) [@MidwestGuy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MidwestGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/3 "2020-03-03T21:30:24Z")
Generally 2 weeks for the seedling stage. Most soils won’t require you to introduce nutrients until at least 4 weeks from your last transplant. What soil are you using, or have you fertilized them already? I couple of those look nute burned. ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/4 "2020-03-03T21:40:53Z")
They are in Fox Farm happy frog now, and will use Forest Farm Ocean forest and Happy frog, thinking 50/50. We spoke in another thread, and I have some of the cow pots you suggested. I think Tomato plants in them. I will score the sides and bottom. I was planning on putting the Autos in 5 gallon pots and the Photos on 10 gallon pots. Is this ok? I also have some 15 gallon pots if you think they might work better… I should say grow bags. They will all stay in the greenhouse until the weather gets warm, which may be late April before I can leave them outside. ---
**Author:** ![Skydiver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/skydiver/32/504956_2.png) [@Skydiver](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Skydiver)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/5 "2020-03-03T21:46:58Z")
Bigger pots bigger plants. Your thought about pot size is fine. I’ve moved from 5 gallon to 7 gallon sizes and now also use 45 gallon pots but there are 3 plants in those but could have put one or 2 in those… Just all depends on what your planning on doing when moving them outside cause also the bigger the pot the heavier it is to move them…lol ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/2/a/92aa3c6938b13326d752b6a1b490fca65c3da780.jpeg) > **[Growing Big in Oregon | High Times](https://hightimes.com/grow/growing-big-in-oregon/)** > >   Is Bigger Better? Does the overall quality and potency of the flower decrease as the size and yield of the plant increases? In other words, do ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/6 "2020-03-03T21:53:51Z")
Fox Farm Happy Frog, and actually they suffered from lack of nutrients after a while. Skydiver helped diagnose the condition. The top picture, looking at the two bigger ones on the left, and then the middle top one are the White Widows. The smaller one in the middle tried to push itself out of the pod, seed and all. I had to gently push it back, and it looked like the bottom picture for a while, touch and go. It has rebounded very nicely. The middle picture, and last plant to the left is the WW Auto, doing beautifully, and planted a couple of weeks after the others due to a screw up with ILGM and the order. The third one is the mystery seed, and it actually looks better live. It jumped up out of the gate, then acted poorly, but doing better now. its 2 sisters never made it. These were old seeds, not properly stored, and surprised they germinated. The bottom pic is a second WW Auto that germinated and then acted poorly. It may be hard to see but it is putting lots of little new growth, waiting for it to bounce. They get the ILGM seedling fertilizer maybe once a week, and water in between ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/7 "2020-03-03T21:55:03Z")
WOW!!! Amazing ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/8 "2020-03-03T21:55:54Z")
I do have 7 Gallon ones as well, great, thanks ---
**Author:** ![Skydiver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/skydiver/32/504956_2.png) [@Skydiver](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Skydiver)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/9 "2020-03-03T21:56:31Z")
> [@jetlag](#): > > They get the ILGM seedling fertilizer maybe once a week, and water in between I’ve never added fertilizer to my plants for at least 4 weeks after they’ve broken ground…but there are always different ways and exceptions. Potting up gives them a fresh soil and usually will fix issues they may be experiencing ---
**Author:** ![Skydiver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/skydiver/32/504956_2.png) [@Skydiver](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Skydiver)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/10 "2020-03-03T21:57:09Z")
I know right…wish I could grow outside ---
**Author:** ![MidwestGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/midwestguy/32/914277_2.png) [@MidwestGuy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MidwestGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/11 "2020-03-03T21:57:36Z")
If they are in Happy Frog they won’t need any fertilizers for weeks. I use Happy Frog and don’t introduce nutrients until 5 weeks after their last transplant. ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/12 "2020-03-03T21:59:59Z")
“When does the plant transition from the seedling stage to the vegetative stage?” When the plants have leaves in addition to their cotyledons they are technically no longer seedlings. ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/13 "2020-03-03T22:03:11Z")
Fantastic, so much to learn ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/14 "2020-03-03T22:05:19Z")
Well, I will have to be somewhat sneaky, but we live in 94 acres. I still want them close to the house to monitor. ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/15 "2020-03-03T22:06:17Z")
Thank you, and you can then move them to their final home if you didn’t do this from the beginning? ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/16 "2020-03-03T22:08:17Z")
Ok, I will mix happy Frog and Ocean Forest, and just plan on watering them until they tell me otherwise, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/17 "2020-03-03T22:13:02Z")
I suppose you could, but I don’t use that as indication for transplant. I typically start in rapid rooter then fo to party cup, then transplant to final pot when leaves are growing over edges of the cup. But I don’t use pots as large as most here do either. ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/18 "2020-03-03T22:29:35Z")
That is what I am doing, learning. I wnet from rapid rooter to the pea pots. Mine are definitely over the edges of the cup, at least some are, so that is a good tip to know, thank you. What size pots do you use? ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/19 "2020-03-03T22:30:35Z")
Generally not larger than 3 gallon indoor. ---
**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782/20 "2020-03-03T22:33:31Z")
Mine will be either in the Greenhouse or outside once the weather warms. [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/when-does-the-plant-transition-from-the-seedling-stage-to-the-vegetative-stage/40782.md?page=2)