# What do you think is going wrong with these

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046>\
**Category:** Grow Cycle\
**Created:** [July 30, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046 "2021-07-30T17:44:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![whatbuddyboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/whatbuddyboy/32/557163_2.png) [@whatbuddyboy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/whatbuddyboy)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/1 "2021-07-30T17:44:29Z")

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well i look at my girls today and they do not look so happy i flushed 2 days ago and they looked great but now i see the tips of the leave are starting to turn up and look a tad puffy and the dont feel real anymore kinda like plastic and the baby white widows are looking light green too.

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i have moved the lights a little further away in hope i dont give them too much light. these leds are new to me and are suppost to be really powerfull and i had them on 50% but ive nocked them down to 25% now.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/2 "2021-07-30T19:58:12Z")

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ive just been back in and there getting worse by the hour

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**Author:** ![whatbuddyboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/whatbuddyboy/32/557163_2.png) [@whatbuddyboy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/whatbuddyboy)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/3 "2021-07-30T19:58:42Z")

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should i give them some nutes

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**Author:** ![CygnusX1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/cygnusx1/32/540661_2.png) [@CygnusX1](https://ilgmforum.com/u/CygnusX1)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/4 "2021-07-30T20:03:36Z")

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When you can, go to the link below with details for a “support ticket”. Thats probably a misleading term here, but copy / paste it in here with responses that will give details of how you’re growing and allow for the community here to lend a hand.

> [@ILGM Grow Support Ticket](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ilgm-grow-support-ticket/1458):
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> [support-ticket] Latewood’s original ILGM Grow Support ticket I came up with the ILGM “Support Ticket” years ago in order to help new membersto easily provide the necessary information to the community mentors, and our ILGM Moderators so we could provide informed advice to help you grow successfully. Experienced community members and expert staff will be better informed and more capable of providing a more informed answers to your questions once hey have an idea of what you are doing. COPY/P…

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**Author:** ![Budz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/budz/32/594135_2.png) [@Budz](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Budz)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/5 "2021-07-30T20:28:34Z")

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Looks like you’re in coco. Should definitely be feeding. What nutes and pH?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/6 "2021-07-30T21:05:40Z")

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right so i have been and gave them some food as i was stressing out  
and thanks for your assistance.

-What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed (photo or auto) photo  
-Age of plant/what week of flower week 3 in veg  
-Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF coco  
-Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, fabric pots material 20 ltr pots  
-PH and TDS of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable) ph 6.0 ec 14  
-PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable  
-Method used to measure PH and TDS blue lab meters  
-Indoor or Outdoor if indoor, size of grow space indoor 16x16 but not using all space  
-Light system LED, MH/HPS/CMH/Fluorescents, or other maxi daylight bright 660w and metal halide  
-Actual wattage draw of lights unknown  
-Current Light Schedule 18/6  
-Temps; Day, Night 76/67  
-Humidity; Day, Night day is 70 /night time unknown  
-Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size yes 10" extraction fan with carbon filter and inling 8" fan  
-AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier, no  
-Co2; Yes, No no

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/7 "2021-07-31T11:48:38Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/6/d/e6d7d75287c9a7dd1c525506370c7b849301cce3.jpeg)  
these are what im using

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**Author:** ![Budz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/budz/32/594135_2.png) [@Budz](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Budz)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/8 "2021-07-31T12:11:34Z")

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I would seek help from the nutrient line. Or at least read up on their FAQs and check out their schedules. Since that’s not a nutrient I’ve seen before.

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Looks like if you use the correct terminology they will tell you exactly what you want to know.

Others will be along before long. I’m sure they’ll have better answers too.

I did notice reading over that line that they don’t recommend using their soil nutrients in coco or ■■■■ versa. Pictures are too blurry for me to tell tho. Make sure you aren’t mixing the product lines up.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/9 "2021-07-31T12:30:13Z")

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im using coco medium not canna nutes and i have got the feeding schedules but i don’t feed full strength i appreciate the help cause god knows they look worse today

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**Author:** ![Budz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/budz/32/594135_2.png) [@Budz](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Budz)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/10 "2021-07-31T12:35:15Z")

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Drop your pH to 5.7 and increase feed. Nitrogen specifically. You should be feeding everyday. I just started coco. But it’s so much easier than soil. My coco grow gets jacks 321 full strength everyday now.

> [@Budz' Dreams in Coco](https://ilgmforum.com/t/budz-dreams-in-coco/70949):
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> Going coco for future grows now that I got a couple good soils under belt. Using a 4x4 veg tent with propagation table inside for those two things. Got two in soil still finishing in flower tents, one just flipped. One with 3 ish weeks left. So this will start slow with just two blue dream and plenty of time to veg. They will be going into a 2x4 with a 2020 sf2000 Will chose one other to veg out for the 3x3 with diy two HLG 288 rspec boards running off a m…

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/11 "2021-07-31T12:40:39Z")

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the thing is budz i did a flush with ph water 3 days ago they looked great the day after they didnt seem to take much water befor that and are a little slow in the growing even though im sure there a lots off roots

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/12 "2021-07-31T12:42:26Z")

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Are you adjusting pH after adding nutrients? Remember. Coco needs nutrients every watering. And always adjust pH after nutrients are well mixed

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/13 "2021-07-31T12:43:57Z")

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i always feed normally and yes i always ph after all mix is made up and i check befor next feed too

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/14 "2021-07-31T12:44:41Z")

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what about the leave curling up

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/15 "2021-07-31T12:46:08Z")

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One plant has a little heat stress and the other looks like wind burn. I imagine you’re fighting some temperature with that light set up. These arent severe enough to be the problem though. more leaves would be affected.

The one largely nitrogen deficient plant is the one I’d focus on.  
Erm  
These.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/16 "2021-07-31T12:50:46Z")

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see thats what is baffling me budz i can see why you would say that about heat and wind burn but the truth off the matter is that its never been cooler in that room mt temps are quite low some times as low as 71 and the fan is pointed at the lights not the plants. im not chellenging you in any way i just feel like pulling my hair out and im sorry to vent any anger your way. my friend

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/17 "2021-07-31T12:56:23Z")

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No worries. I take no offense. I honestly ignore small stuff like that. If it’s just one older fan leaf I just remove it. Sometimes if it’s a couple and I know I already fixed it too. Like this. No issue. Just an old leaf.

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Basically. Don’t make a problem out of a potential non problem. Since it could be as simple as removing the leaf. If it’s not affecting other growth.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/18 "2021-07-31T12:58:14Z")

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if your tips of your leaves were starting to curl up what would that say to you

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/19 "2021-07-31T12:59:09Z")

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Ok I guess I should be more specific.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/what-do-you-think-is-going-wrong-with-these/72046/20 "2021-07-31T13:01:16Z")

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im only saying that because those 2 blue light are the latest thing and you can only buy them here in the uk and i worrie they are too much for plants in veg

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