We all learn at our own pace I reckon. Lord knows I screw up everyday 
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I been noticing on this one strain I’ve been working with that each time I pull clones they seem to be showing more and more mutations, I’ve been cloning her about 3 years now, I’ve got thousands of different seeds Ive made with her but none seem to match her effects, now some are more potent, some less, but never as good as this original cut. Have yall noticed this in any you have made??? @kaptain3d @Growdoc @OGIncognito .
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Not knowing the genetics and the plant history that produced the seed you grew the plant from, if it was a solid regular seed and the generation (F1, 2 , 3 ect) it’s hard to say Grow Bro. Certainly odd with every cut coming from the same mother plant that was ok. @Budbrother any wisdom to share 
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Clones are genetic copies of the Mother, they should be like her, but not knowing the past genetics, it’s hard to say, could be a suppressed mutation that takes a few generations to show up. I have had clones to have mutated leaves at first, but that’s about it.
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I wouldnt say three years automatically makes a cut drift, but it can happen depending on what the plant has been through. Clones are genetic copies, but the plant can still pick up small changes over time. If the mother had any stress along the way like heat, pests, root crowding, over pruning, or nutrient swings, that can change how certain traits show up later. This is one of the reason I stress tested moms, while running cuts. Saw minor changes here in there in some. Some strains are naturally more stable and hold their structure and chemistry for years, others are more sensitive and start showing odd leaves or growth shifts sooner. This is pretty dependent on the genetics leading up to the plant you originally started with.
There’s also the chance of a latent virus or viroid slowly affecting vigor and expression without obvious symptoms. And sometimes what looks like a mutation is just the plant expressing a trait that was always in the genetics, triggered by environment or age. Seeds from her not matching is normal too, since seeds reshuffle genes and don’t duplicate the exact profile of the original cut.
even at three years it can happen, depending on strain stability, stress history, clone generations, and whether or not any hidden pathogen is involved. Some cuts stay rock solid forever, some change faster. It varies plant to plant.
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Genetic drift was my thought. I haven’t experienced it with my 3 yr old Sour Rozay.
You can use the sun as a helper that sometimes revives them. Let mother sit outside a week or two. Take the fast growth tops and clone them. Feed them up inside and then take fresh cuttings again from the new top. This tissue with rapid growth usually outpaces the spread of viroids, and it can straighten out some stressed genetics.
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Thank you all very much 
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They are actually some of OT1’s work from the UK. Dont know the exact name of the strain it was just called Old Timers Haze. He worked alot in the preservation of older genetics. He passed away back in 2022’. 
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I’m liking this idea of cutting the faster growing tops for clones. The Grateful Breath that I have growing now are mostly consistent, bud, kinda difficult to clone. 
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I’ve had my best luck cloning plants taking parts off the bottom branches. Never tried cutting off a top to clone it.
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Every batch I manifold, I let get 7 nodes, top at 5th and use tops as clones, the branch spacing will be even on them too, unlike side branches. Tops give clones that grow with structure like from a seed plant.
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True that side branch spacing has always been uneven. Never thought about it that way. Hmm
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Every batch I monster crop, I will take cuts from the newer tops of them and clone again. The newer clones always root faster with a young tender green stem. I guess the cells aren’t as irregular or degraded by age as the original donor.
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They will go a few nodes throwing doubles for me but then usually they will start stair stepping like side branches do. Depends on how high I top it too I guess, I use to top alot but don’t do it much anymore.
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Air layering is for the a-holes that wanna be prissy
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Speaking about cloning I’m about to run an experiment with some coco husk and perlite in a 10" square net pot. Pre-charged with a nutrient solution around 6.0 and 500 ppms. 
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I’ve started doing my clones like that but in Promix, easy peasy and saves stall time. Mine don’t even yellow anymore, pre charging is the ticket, I do it on seeds now too.
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This coconut husk really impressed me in a soil mix I made for the white truffle grow. Figured I give it a go with some salts and see how she does. The clones are from your Pancakes btw. I took the four lower branches that weren’t gonna make it up to the canopy and decided I’d go ahead run another round with her. If I get all 4 to root, sometimes they just won’t take off for me, lol. I dont use any of the fancy stuff, just some aloe from my aloe plant and some cheap o powdered root stimulator. Give them a dunk in Agrowlyte, wound the stem a little, rub aloe on em, throw the powder to em and stick em in the dirt, or coco, or pebbles, I’ve tried them all. 
oops forgot rockwool.
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Pancakes is what I call an intermediate skill level strain, she can take a bit longer to root sometimes, but grow great once rooted. You got this!
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