# Tumescent85s Grow Log **URL:** \ **Category:** Grow Cycle\ **Tags:** indoor-grow\ **Created:** [August 27, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700 "2024-08-27T17:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![anon34311147](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@anon34311147](https://ilgmforum.com/u/anon34311147)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/22 "2024-08-30T17:49:47Z")
Sorry yo heat about the defective T3. I have 2 of them. They work great. You can really fine tune your growing atmosphere with any of the AC infinity products. I use all they’re stuff except for the actual Tent, which is a Gorilla 4×4 and the lights which are HLG. But AC all the way for the rest… ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/23 "2024-08-30T18:11:57Z")
Yeah this one is awesome. Working phenomenally and it is way more water efficient than other cheap models i have used before. I am looking forward to having more room so i can get the tent and go infinity all the way with the controller 69 and UIS ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/24 "2024-08-30T21:04:58Z")
Go with the biggest tent your space will allow. Filling it will be easy. Plants and equipment, take space. AC-Infinity 100%, except, maybe lights. My HLGs (350/260/30) may be better than a 1000HPS. Been 40 years since I grew with it. It died in the fire, like all of DDDs S-T-U-F-F. The late George Carlin had a monologue about Stuff. Yup he got it right. ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/25 "2024-08-30T22:57:02Z")
George also didnt stay hydrated , it was called being thirsty lol. Love that guy. I agree with the AC infinity stuff. I find their products to be excellent and its good to hear from people that actually use it. ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/26 "2024-08-30T22:57:34Z")
![Cloudline Controllers -ON 600+watts](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/8/9/c/89c48a86ffec8de0b6535f35428dfb8642a38c65.jpeg) 600 watts (or 620) LED from HLG 2.80 or better Lowering the lights (for me) always turns bad. Increasing power as temps finally allow. 11.5 ON and 12.5 OFF. 25 inches above the canopy and awaiting the ladies to grow into their happy place. ![IMG_20240828_070848](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/b/4/e/b4e470f61f1f785fae70ea63f1b8dd111f5e0c8b.jpeg) ![IMG_20240828_070832](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/a/4/5a4b9ac019c007d2c121174d2ec9a8094b0c4517.jpeg) > [@RE-Veging a continous grow garden](https://ilgmforum.com/t/re-veging-a-continous-grow-garden/96092/756): > > Been a week of rain, until today. Walked the yard and see no less than six male pre-flower plants. 2024 Backyard Orgy Fest about to commence. More seeds, if I don’t harvest the yard 10-1-2024? ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/27 "2024-08-30T23:24:27Z")
Nice setup. Those parameters are spot on. The AC infinity catalog does a nice job of stating you can have all these environmentals automated and it looks to be true. Are those autos ? ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/28 "2024-08-30T23:35:50Z")
> [@tumescent85](#): > > Are those autos ? IDK. Don’t ask, Don’t tell, or don’t believe. I can’t remember some things and forgot to ask about others. CRAPSHOOT or crapshot? I only use the temp triggers. 3-tent design for Veg, Flower and Clones. Still trying to refine, for “moonshot”. Soils and temps are my required learning areas. ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/29 "2024-08-30T23:55:14Z")
Lighting is the area i need more refinement with for sure. ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/30 "2024-08-31T03:23:16Z")
HLG can help with that. ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/31 "2024-08-31T16:56:50Z")
Doing well today. ![20240831_095555](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/7/4/5748ea1e59bec51b71e51a67fe364fd8e38c8e60.jpeg) ![20240831_095548](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/5/0/050714b306343db9361e92b03428eda92a0caf44.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/32 "2024-09-01T18:15:09Z")
Day 2 since flip ![20240901_111434](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/b/8/3/b83f0e8d611ec2b81ca185558f6fa9c83d04f828.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/33 "2024-09-03T19:45:25Z")
Stretch is underway ![20240903_124020](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/7/d/57d28a9dcd0b510b58410791254b17ccb35264d9.jpeg) ![20240903_124016](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/b/3/e/b3e8c16b080d9be7d9a14b3d85544be5508ff3f2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![anon34311147](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@anon34311147](https://ilgmforum.com/u/anon34311147)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/34 "2024-09-04T15:27:44Z")
> [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](#): > > Increasing power as temps finally allow. > 11.5 ON and 12.5 OFF Are you using the Emerson Effect? 11: 30 on 12:30 off is 13 hours of light in flower. I am asking because i think i have the equipment to utilize the Emerson Effect. I need to find out if theres enough Far Red in the HLG Rspec 700 FR first. Now that i have a UVA supplement light bar i might be able to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![anon34311147](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@anon34311147](https://ilgmforum.com/u/anon34311147)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/35 "2024-09-04T15:30:04Z")
Definitely , call HLG up. They will get you hooked up. ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/36 "2024-09-04T17:16:35Z")
Did a defol today. Is this too much, too little, just right ? ![20240904_101554](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/4/b/d4b7a892a2e351dc467f331acbf95933c6c74adc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tumescent85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tumescent85/32/914810_2.png) [@tumescent85](https://ilgmforum.com/u/tumescent85)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/37 "2024-09-04T20:03:14Z")
Trimmed and scrogged. Set to bloom ![20240904_124747](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/a/1/fa1d96b41b60d78399837596bf033003f5ad0874.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/38 "2024-09-05T01:55:25Z")
Had to look it up. “Exposure to higher percentages of far-red light” [The **Emerson effect** in cannabis cultivation refers to the phenomenon where **exposure to higher percentages of far-red light during the flowering stage can lead to taller plants with greater internodal distance and potentially increase yields**]. OK, now that I think about it. My summer indoor grow is restricted (no Air conditioner cooling). The April/May harvest of the winter grow went, not the best. The Seedlings started for summer, indoor went 2/2/2/2 (Two plants in each bag (two) and each had a female with male. Banished them to outdoors. My Vipar Spectras are energy hogs and produce heat (all pre-2022 China Cheapies). Cheapest solution HLG’s. (Quality light and customer support) Buying my HLG-350R was impressive and made me happy. The 260D was a kit and I could not resist. Then I read about UVA-30 and figured why not. Due to summer heat I am not often able to max out the 600-630 watts, from my HLG’s during July and August. Oct-May they will work well with the Vipars providing heat for winter grow. ILGM Autos will be started 11/1/2024. About the “Emerson Effect”, I can see it, but didn’t know the wording. Initially, I was disappointed with the short plant with large node spacing. I could not quantify if it was the HLGs, or operating lights at 20-25 inches (not 15 as recommended, while avoiding HEAT issues). Secondly, avoiding heat and running the tent 11.5/12.5 (on-off) may contribute to short plants with wide nodes. was using 11.5/12.5 to avoid heat and temper humidity. not trying to verify Emerson works and in my opinion, it does, maybe… Now, that I can run full blast and the equipment works, I am happy. I expect I am 8-weeks into flip with 6 since flowering. Happy, I am, with the short ladies and wide node spacing. The heat and humidity are my weak areas. Let me say the buds are building and happy I am, even with the spacing of nodes. They were raised under cheap lights until tent residency. ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/39 "2024-09-05T02:22:52Z")
I tried to participate in a extended ON period with 15 hrs OFF. @Labweed (his thread). I Couldn’t take the cycles (times changing). > [@28 hour photoperiod](https://ilgmforum.com/t/28-hour-photoperiod/93400/21): > > I was running 1000 HPS in 12/12. It was too much. I couldnt move the light high enough, so this time i decided to put it on the 600 setting. DLI doesnt really mean thats all the light it can handle, and its done for the day. Otherwise you couldnt veg it 24 hrs a day. DLI is a preference of the plant, not a maximum. I wish i had a well spread LED light instead of HPS. Learned I do better with clock cycles not changing. Autos for winter and Photos for summer. Clones and reveging. The plan. ---
**Author:** ![Labweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/76d3ee/32.png) [@Labweed](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Labweed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/40 "2024-09-07T15:48:16Z")
Its not easy. It takes some getting used to. However, with a good hydroponic system that allows for maintenance outside of the tent, you wouldnt have to really do anything. No adaptation necessary. ---
**Author:** ![anon34311147](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@anon34311147](https://ilgmforum.com/u/anon34311147)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700/41 "2024-09-07T16:45:10Z")
Thats the main issue with growing under artificial lighting is the heat they create and the effect it has on the chemicals in the flowers itself. Its a balancing act to simulate natural sunlight and over heating the flowers. [Previous page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700.md?page=1) [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/tumescent85s-grow-log/113700.md?page=3)