# Starting over after epic fail **URL:** \ **Category:** Seedling\ **Created:** [May 26, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125 "2021-05-26T19:24:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gracie01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gracie01](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Gracie01)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/1 "2021-05-26T19:24:15Z")
Okay starting all over. Fixing to start some Granddaddy Purple autos. What are the recommended nutes? I want to order the kit from here but it’s always sold out… What to do? ---
**Author:** ![dirtydave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dirtydave/32/626820_2.png) [@dirtydave](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dirtydave)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/2 "2021-05-26T19:28:21Z")
Would help if you filled out a support ticket so we know what your growing in and how you plan to be growing it ---
**Author:** ![Gracie01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gracie01](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Gracie01)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/3 "2021-05-26T19:29:34Z")
I’m on it! ---
**Author:** ![Gracie01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gracie01](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Gracie01)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/4 "2021-05-26T19:38:37Z")
Growing outside in CC 40% perlite, 5-gal fiber pots ---
**Author:** ![dirtydave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dirtydave/32/626820_2.png) [@dirtydave](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dirtydave)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/5 "2021-05-26T19:55:40Z")
I’m a soil dry amendments guy so not much help with coco but someone chime in and help I think @beardless is a coco Guru I do know that Jacks is a very popular and it works with all mediums ---
**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/6 "2021-05-26T21:00:21Z")
@dirtydave thanks for the tag. Far from guru but I try to follow recommendations and coco for cannabis guidelines. I have two purple kush growing in coco with 40 - 50% perlite. This the first time using coco. To make watering less demanding I am also trying autopot for the first time. I also switched to Jacks. Coco & Jacks is a natural combination. I am not sure I would recommend growing outside in coco unless you are able to commit to possibly having to water several times a day. Or, do a work around through some sort of water / irrigation system. What is called a sub-irrigated planter (SIP) , also called wicking planter or simple self-watering planter may be something to consider. I have four purple haze growing in 5 gallon SIP filled with peat & perlite. ![IMG_0007](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/a/f/7/af75e6f07ee893bfed0008ef2d3330cf6cf3150c.jpeg) I recommend taking a look at Coco for Cannabis. I know it has a nutrient recommendation but I don’t recall what line it is. Otherwise Jacks is easy. I use it and supplement with some Advanced Nutrients I have left over. Shout if you have questions ---
**Author:** ![Gracie01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gracie01](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Gracie01)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/7 "2021-05-26T21:55:59Z")
What is JACK’S? I’m retired and am able to keep my eyes on them outside all day. They’ll be in a pot because we’ve had a lot of rain here in Texas lately and I can move them inside when I need to. ---
**Author:** ![dirtydave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dirtydave/32/626820_2.png) [@dirtydave](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dirtydave)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/8 "2021-05-26T22:01:32Z")
Jacks 321 is a fertilizer available on AMAZON ---
**Author:** ![Covertgrower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/covertgrower/32/423081_2.png) [@Covertgrower](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Covertgrower)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/9 "2021-05-27T00:04:58Z")
You can Google Jacks Nutrients and their website will come up. You can purchase direct also. ---
**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/10 "2021-05-27T10:55:05Z")
> [@Gracie01](#): > > What is JACK’S? I’m retired First off, isn’t retirement great. It has been 18 months for me. Jack’s 321 formula is a very popular three part fertilizer program used by many cannabis growers. Jack’s nutrients is a line of products produced by JR Peters Corp. Search this forum for Jacks or Jacks 321. Lots of users and advice. This is Jacks published nutrient schedule ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/1/c/c/1cc6d2ee4c4ae2d0afda0ec5a91c53b91dc726c9.png) The three primary ingredients are Part A Part B Epsom Salt Good luck with what ever you decide. ---
**Author:** ![IslandGrown76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@IslandGrown76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/IslandGrown76)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/starting-over-after-epic-fail/68125/11 "2021-05-27T11:02:42Z")
Do you have a garden supply store near you?