# Robert Bergmann on "Pruning"

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613>\
**Category:** Indoor Growing\
**Created:** [June 21, 2014, 4:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613 "2014-06-21T04:46:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/23 "2016-01-25T04:23:45Z")

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after reading this i began to realize the size of ROCK i live under LMAO. thanks . after a new ink cartage now . Could be the blunt effect haha. thanks again ,H . Although hard back text do look good 😀

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**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/24 "2016-01-25T04:37:11Z")

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i actually received a free copy of the grow bible .even before signing on as a member . it’s what the main reason for joining was… And now convinced that joining the lab is a must. tried to Friday but my CC stopped payment . wasn’t sure til they called EARLY Morning .so will have to wait til Monday .then join . the money is small change compared to the VAULE of just one of my girls .😀 and for the record i just love a shiny new hard back text. lol

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**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/25 "2016-01-25T09:39:06Z")

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And now; We are all humbled…

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**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/26 "2016-01-25T20:38:25Z")

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latewood iam not sure humility fits you well… lol Lab coat Definably

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**Author:** ![Majiktoker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/majiktoker/32/80701_2.png) [@Majiktoker](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Majiktoker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/27 "2016-01-25T20:57:35Z")

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Lmao wouldn’t It be comedy

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**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/28 "2016-01-26T17:36:41Z")

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That’s me…Mr. Comedy! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Majiktoker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/majiktoker/32/80701_2.png) [@Majiktoker](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Majiktoker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/29 "2016-01-26T21:46:18Z")

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Comedy is a great thing whem I need it I’ll come to you lol any ways guys we are getting a little off topic, we gotta becareful not to get to distracted

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**Author:** ![ktreez420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/ktreez420/32/11764_2.png) [@ktreez420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ktreez420)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/30 "2016-01-26T22:02:38Z")

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Haha I agree! Ok, so on the topic of pruning… I have a monster cropped clone that I’m growing. She’s looking great and I’ve already begun to LST her by tying down some branches and chutes. But, because she is monster cropped, the growth is crazy! There are leaves everywhere and I don’t know what to cut, if I should cut anything? My goal is to eventually put my SCROG net on her. Any advice, thoughts, or experience?

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There are a bunch of single blade leaves, and my other monster cropped clone doesn’t even look like a weed plant haha. But I’m just curious on what I should do next in order to have her ready for my SCROG net when the time comes.

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**Author:** ![hillcrest21678](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hillcrest21678/32/5704_2.png) [@hillcrest21678](https://ilgmforum.com/u/hillcrest21678)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/31 "2016-01-27T01:09:31Z")

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Do not cut anything just let her grow to the size you like put net on after your about three weeks into flowering prune under growth below net:v:

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**Author:** ![ktreez420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/ktreez420/32/11764_2.png) [@ktreez420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ktreez420)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/32 "2016-01-27T03:16:37Z")

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I shouldn’t have the screen on for veg?

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**Author:** ![MacGyverStoner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/macgyverstoner/32/80714_2.png) [@MacGyverStoner](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MacGyverStoner)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/33 "2016-01-27T06:37:58Z")

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Using a screen or your tie down technique, or some combination of the two should be fine for training during veg.

OK, when re-vegging a flowering clone for the monster cropping, you might actually want to carefully prune some of the single leaf undergrowth as new top leaf sets appear. The monster cropping itself is a bit of an advanced technique, and even though in general and especially for new growers growing from seed, it is true we normally do not recommend cutting off healthy green leaves.

However, with clones, and monster cropped clones, this is a slightly more advanced technique and there are some other things to consider about your older leaves that have been on the plant for awhile.

And these things to think about are not only the accumulation of nutrients and sugars in these larger older leaves, but also of the hormones that regulate the veg or flowering type growth.

Regular clones that have been vegging forever can benefit from some of the oldest largest fan leaves being removed during the transition to flower for a possibly quicker response and transition to the flowering light cycle. As by removing these older leaves you will help get rid of the vegging hormones contained in them and the newer leaves under the new light cycle will not have this and should have more of the flowering hormone that results in this faster transition.

And the same can be said of the single blade leafs of a monster cropped clone, carefully pruning certain of the single leaflets after it has been put back into a veg light cycle and starts to branch out again and send out new shoots, this removal of old leaves as new leaves start to show up will also help the clone start truly to re-veg properly by removing the flowering hormones contained in the older leaves, and you should start to see more 3 fingered and more fingered leaves start to appear again.

~MacG

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**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/34 "2016-01-28T21:05:48Z")

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IN answer to your question. It is my opinion and I am sure all will agree; You need the wires early on in order to train the plant when it is young and pliable.

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**Author:** ![Majiktoker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/majiktoker/32/80701_2.png) [@Majiktoker](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Majiktoker)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/35 "2016-01-28T21:09:12Z")

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I agree 100% @latewood, early training when plant is young works very well. Great advise as well

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**Author:** ![Happy313](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/happy313/32/20778_2.png) [@Happy313](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Happy313)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/36 "2016-02-02T01:27:53Z")

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Thanks man

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**Author:** ![Majiktoker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/majiktoker/32/80701_2.png) [@Majiktoker](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Majiktoker)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/37 "2016-02-02T01:39:24Z")

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Yup how’s it coming along

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**Author:** ![Chase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chase/32/5383_2.png) [@Chase](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Chase)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/38 "2016-02-10T04:47:45Z")

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Hey hammer! There is a physical copy of the grow bible! But it’s not Roberts, but here is the one I had back in high school almost ten years ago. It’s basically the same thing just a little more detail on all the tops more pictures etc. it’s like 300+ pages

\_sorry\_chase; we only allow commercial links from Dealzer, or Amazon. Please find that book on Amazon, and we can allow it to be posted.\_ADMIN 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chase/32/5383_2.png) [@Chase](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Chase)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/39 "2016-02-17T13:57:15Z")

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Sorry my bad…

[http://www.amazon.com/The-Cannabis-Grow-Bible-Recreational/dp/1931160589?tag=greenrel-20](http://www.amazon.com/The-Cannabis-Grow-Bible-Recreational/dp/1931160589?tag=ilovegrowingm-20)

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**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/40 "2016-02-19T18:16:44Z")

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Thank You. And; Thanks MacG for editing link! ")

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**Author:** ![JohnSwan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/johnswan/32/65816_2.png) [@JohnSwan](https://ilgmforum.com/u/JohnSwan)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 6:49am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/41 "2017-09-04T06:49:44Z")

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what about clipping week 1-2 of flowering off all the big shade leaves

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**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/robert-bergmann-on-pruning/613/42 "2017-09-05T01:00:51Z")

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I have to apologize up front because, I can only think of smartass answers. Don’t do it

That is what I think.

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