# PPM question for ya **URL:** \ **Category:** Nutrients\ **Tags:** nutes, ppm\ **Created:** [July 5, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731 "2022-07-05T01:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/1 "2022-07-05T01:41:02Z")
Hey all. I went through a lot of the old posts to try and find a definitive answer on this and was unable. So I will ask here. I am growing in FF Happy Frog soil. I keep my ph on or around 6 and my well water I use has around 320 ppm naturally (high, I know). When I use my fox farm trio at half the suggested dosage to feed EVERY OTHER watering, it ppms at about 1,300. I regularly get about 100 to 200 ppm higher on my runoff (1400 to 1500) with a good PH of between 5.9 and 6. I have read that you want LOWER ppm out than the ppm going in. If I need to drop my nutes to a quarter, I am ready to do that. Thoughts please. My plants are in their second week of flowering. I have also included some photos although I doubt you need them for this particular topic. Shock ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/6/4/5/645b04a971e66898a2191d7c8a9ffe7e76afd1ba.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/f/d/dfd11a0ec0b5fc93dc3cdc1322ea727e28252750.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/1/a/d/1ad31c72da510e8037306cd67f5377d81a11e544.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Caligurl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/caligurl/32/597950_2.png) [@Caligurl](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Caligurl)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/2 "2022-07-05T01:43:56Z")
They look healthy, I would drop the nutes a little but not drastically each time. You could also try a flush first to see if that resets it and gets rid of some of the excess… Lots of different opinions out there. Others will chime in. ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/3 "2022-07-05T02:18:26Z")
Yeah, I definitely don’t have any signs of nute burn or deficiency for that matter. Just want to make sure I am NAILING it, you know? Getting the science down. Thank you for taking the time to answer me. 🙏 ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beck/32/524874_2.png) [@Beck](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/4 "2022-07-05T03:13:12Z")
Fox Farms does have a schedule for flushing with Sledgehammer at specific times. They look good to me though 🪴 ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/5 "2022-07-05T03:19:40Z")
Thanks, Beck! ---
**Author:** ![Docnraq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/docnraq/32/1206410_2.png) [@Docnraq](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Docnraq)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/6 "2022-07-05T03:55:11Z")
What are concerned about exactly? Your ph is too low? ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/7 "2022-07-05T04:04:37Z")
Nope That my ppm is higher in my runoff by 100-200 ppm than the fertilizer/water concoction’s ppms when I put it in. For instance. My ff trio is at about 1300 when I pour it in the plant. You still with me? And then it is about 1400-1500 ppm on runoff. PH is fine. In and out. Shock ---
**Author:** ![Docnraq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/docnraq/32/1206410_2.png) [@Docnraq](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Docnraq)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/8 "2022-07-05T04:15:49Z")
> [@ShockDog](#): > > That my ppm is higher in my runoff by 100-200 ppm than the fertilizer/water concoction’s ppms when I put it in. This happens to me alot also, I contribute it to the speed in which I water. Do a soil slurry. Get a soil sample from somewhere around center between pot wall and center mast of plant. Go 2 inches below top soil. Take sample and mix 1:1 with distilled or RO water. (I do 1 tblsp each) agetate and stir for 1 min then allow to settle for 15 mins. Ph and tds the solution for an accurate reading. Runoff isnt the most accurate way to tell, its ment more as a guide. Track it and use it to tell when something has changed. I like to feed when runoff is around 800-1000ppm. > [@ShockDog](#): > > I keep my ph on or around 6 This seams low to me. I ph to 6.8 try to keep my soil/runoff around 6.5. 6 is kinda low for phos in soil. Your plants look mad healthy though. Im not sure I would change anything your doing. ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:21am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/9 "2022-07-05T04:21:42Z")
Thanks, bro. They are healthy as \*\*\*\* (you believe they don’t allow cursing on here?). But I feel like there is always room for improvement in my grow game, you know? Maybe the PH adjustment you are suggesting is the improvement I am looking for? Thanks again, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Docnraq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/docnraq/32/1206410_2.png) [@Docnraq](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Docnraq)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/10 "2022-07-05T04:30:57Z")
> [@ShockDog](#): > > But I feel like there is always room for improvement in my grow game, you know? I do. I spent 6 months starving my plants of light trying to avoid foxtails. Finally I decided I didnt care if my buds had lil bumps all over em. It was a difficult time. ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/11 "2022-07-05T04:46:27Z")
Don’t fox tails have some other detrimental effect on the buds though? I am a little ignorant on that topic, frankly. ---
**Author:** ![Docnraq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/docnraq/32/1206410_2.png) [@Docnraq](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Docnraq)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/12 "2022-07-05T04:54:18Z")
It depends. Some plants its a part of their genetics others (most) not so much. If left unchecked it can give you alot of imature trichomes. There is a difference between foxtails and whst I was counting as foxtails. Ill show ya what I mean. ![20220704_215059](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/1/8/d18813772e7ae47358771cb86bbad3781548185f.jpeg) This is one of my ladies. She has what I was considering foxtail. Circled it in yellow. This is not detrimental foxtailing. Couldnt tell me that 6 mnths ago but it isnt. ![Screenshot_20220704-215341_Chrome](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/a/0/1/a015f38e714118f5fb76c949dbaecd27ee904112.jpeg) This is what detrimental foxtailing looks like. Not my plant ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/13 "2022-07-05T04:55:34Z")
Damn. That bottom one is ugly as hell. No mistaking that when it happens. 😂 Yours doesn’t seem to be effected in NEARLY that way, dude. ---
**Author:** ![OGIncognito](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/ogincognito/32/475294_2.png) [@OGIncognito](https://ilgmforum.com/u/OGIncognito)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 9:35am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/14 "2022-07-05T09:35:44Z")
@Docnraq gotcha covered Brother. Ladies look healthy 🤟 ---
**Author:** ![MrRobot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mrrobot/32/716838_2.png) [@MrRobot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MrRobot)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/15 "2022-07-12T00:40:59Z")
Don’t want to start a new thread so I’m going to try and use this one…so two days ago i did a straight water only and runoff was 800 so i went to feed and today runoff was 1200 im currently using jack 321 and ppm in was 1200 should i be worried or was the soil so dry that the nut water went straight through…i also spaced out the feeding so not to dump it all at once if that matters ---
**Author:** ![ShockDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shockdog/32/962136_2.png) [@ShockDog](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShockDog)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/16 "2022-07-14T21:17:19Z")
Hey, bud. I started watering and feeding to 20 percent runoff and it solved my PPM issue. Thanks for the tip. Shock ---
**Author:** ![OGIncognito](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/ogincognito/32/475294_2.png) [@OGIncognito](https://ilgmforum.com/u/OGIncognito)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ppm-question-for-ya/89731/17 "2022-07-15T00:24:19Z")
Right on Brother! That’s good to hear 🤟