# PH to high in my coco ( runoff )

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494>\
**Category:** Troubleshooting\
**Tags:** nutes, ph, coco, indoor-grow\
**Created:** [October 28, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494 "2021-10-28T19:22:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NND](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b2d939/32.png) [@NND](https://ilgmforum.com/u/NND)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/21 "2021-10-29T15:54:16Z")

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Yes my bad, i wrote down the RH from light level, i just put a hygrometer ag canopy level and it reads 67%.  
Im using a dehu to get it down so i could stil raise it a bit.  
Thank you

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/22 "2021-10-29T15:55:36Z")

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Thanks🙂

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/23 "2021-10-29T15:57:21Z")

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Would these things lower thr PH ?

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/24 "2021-10-29T16:08:18Z")

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Worm castings are entirely the problem IF nothing else is present. Top-dressing dolomitic lime is probably the best thing besides transplanting into cannabis-optimized soil.

There are people that grow successfully in Miracle Gro too but a new grower should NEVER use MG. Same for soil; don’t build anything that you can’t get commercially already (like FFOF or Roots Organics etc). I’m an experienced grower and I would never commit to growing cannabis in that mix. It’s just asking for trouble.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/25 "2021-10-29T16:15:09Z")

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> [@dbrn32](#):
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> Imo easiest path to most success with coco is to treat as soilless and feed daily to good amount of runoff.

This 👆🏿  
I mix my jacks (5min), pour till it runs out (2min). Remove run off (5 min) and then watch Gilligans Island all day. No longer check pH as its always the same 5.8 every time.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/26 "2021-10-29T16:22:31Z")

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I dont think i mentioned that before but i also ad mycorhizae with every transplant and i use the full line from Remo nutrients.

So just leave the wormcastings out for the next transplant? Maybe 70%coco and 30%perlite ?  
I like coco because its really hard to over water.

Thanks

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/27 "2021-10-29T16:25:04Z")

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After one day the coco is still really wet, can i still water?  
Thanks

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/28 "2021-10-29T16:30:10Z")

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> [@Spiney\_norman](#):
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> then watch Gilligans Island

Mary Ann, Ginger or OH NO Lovey?  
Old habits are hard to break. I’ll still check runoff. Probably more often than I need to. Jack’s & coco - pH is 5.8 - 5.9. ppm is more interesting. Usually in 1400 - 1600 range. Will spike to 2000 occasionally.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/29 "2021-10-29T16:36:50Z")

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What do you think about that, i also just read that dolomite lime is usually used to raise the PH is that true ?  
Thanks

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/30 "2021-10-29T19:16:07Z")

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Yes: coco/perlite is _soilless_ and you have to provide all supplements. Coco does need to remain damp to wet. I have gone a couple of days between waterings when the plant is too small to uptake all of the water in the pot daily. If growing photoperiod I’d recommend potting up a couple of times to avoid overwatering anyway. Autos, not so much.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/31 "2021-10-29T20:17:42Z")

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I don’t really know what your definition of really wet is, but yes I feed daily without checking how wet my pots are in coco. I would say it’s noticeably dryer after 24 hours though. Are you feeding around the time lights come on?

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/32 "2021-10-29T20:33:58Z")

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Its more moist not really wet, no matter how much i water it never gets as soaking wet as soil.  
I try to water when the lights turn on but its not always possible. (Due to working shifts)

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/33 "2021-10-29T20:38:10Z")

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work outside the home is a great reason NOT to use a highly interactive grow medium such as Coir. It’s a great way to grow as others mention above for maximum control but to maintain that control demands consistent daily attention.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/34 "2021-10-29T20:46:23Z")

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You definitely don’t want to allow it to dry out completely. Coco will become hydrophobic if you do. The easiest way for most to deal with is have lights come on at a time you are typically around. I usually have mine come on 9-10pm specifically for this reason.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/35 "2021-10-29T21:36:19Z")

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> [@MH47](#):
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> demands consistent daily attention

There are any number of automatic watering systems out there for not much $$. Blumat is one IIRC.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/36 "2021-10-29T22:21:41Z")

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Thanks i will do that when switching to flower, did not think about that when starting the grow… 😄

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/37 "2021-10-29T22:24:33Z")

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Is there any runoff with these systems ? People usually tell me to water with runoff in coco.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/38 "2021-10-29T22:46:56Z")

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I didn’t water to runoff the last few grows: autopots. There’s another way to make things easy and there’s any number of growers with journals on them. I can go 5 days without touching anything for 3 plants with the reservoir supplied.

If you use Jack’s and either top-feed on a timer (blumat) or bottom-feed like with autopots, the need to water to runoff goes away.

Do some research: search this forum and read some journals.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/39 "2021-10-30T02:54:07Z")

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Good point. If you have the budget auto watering could be a solution. Given the experience level of the grower, not checking the plants for days at a time might not be conducive to catching a potential issue early. A more experienced grower could probably relax with auto watering and treat them like a houseplant.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ph-to-high-in-my-coco-runoff/77494/40 "2021-10-30T12:56:06Z")

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> [@Myfriendis410](#):
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> If growing photoperiod I’d recommend potting up a couple of times

I do this by setting the 1 gallon fabric pot into a 5 gallon fabric pot. The roots grow right through the felt and you don’t have to mess with removing the root ball from the smaller pot.  
You can see the original was set about 2 inches into the larger container which I removed for the photo. Massive roots grew right through the first pot and the plant thrived.

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